Monday, August 19, 2013

The Majestic Isn't Perfect, But It's Probably Not Racist

If you've been reading this blog for any length of time, you know I have my issues with the Majestic, however I feel like I'm obligated to defend it from accusations that have been leveled against it this week. In case you haven’t seen the story, a patron who attended a showing of Lee Daniels’ The Butler at the theater this past weekend was shocked to see armed guards working security in the lobby and in the theater, and believed that the security was somehow targeting this particular film's predominately African-American audience. (You can read her whole series of tweets here.)
 
She did mention this was her first time at the Majestic, so she wouldn’t have any way of knowing that this is par for the course for the theater on busy nights. There are always off-duty officers handling security on the weekends. In fact, when you are attending a popular movie like this one, you probably want the extra scrutiny – without it, you’d have people purchasing tickets for other films taking up seats in your sold-out theater. This will leave some of those with valid tickets without a seat – I’ve been in overcrowded theaters where legit ticketholders were stuck watching a movie from the steps because so many people had snuck into their show and taken up seats. Why they have security guards instead of ushers handling this responsibility, I don't know.

It does seem somewhat ridiculous that a movie theater would need guards packing heat, but I suppose off-duty police officers with sidearms are more likely to deter potential troublemakers (or take down crazed gunmen) than toothless mall cop security guards. Maybe the "optics" are bad if you take the whole scene out of context, but having been to this theater countless times, I'm just accustomed to it. I guess it makes a good story for the media, though.

I'm sure the theater would rather not have to cover the costs for extra security guards, the wages of whom are likely far more than those of revenue-generating positions like concession workers. God knows they could use more of those




70 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think off duty cops always carry their weapons.

Sligo said...

Is that a department rule or just convention?

Anonymous said...

I agree. This had nothing to do with the content of the movie and had everything to do with the popularity of the movie. The Majestic is just one of those cinemas where they need some extra muscle from time to time to deal with large crowds.

Anonymous said...

I think they need some extra muscle every weekend, it gets sketchy at times. This was actually international news, if you can believe it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396800/Weekend-box-office-results-Lee-Daniels-The-Butler-opens-25m--cinema-faces-backlash-armed-guards.html

Anonymous said...

As someone who knows a number of the fantastic police officers who work security at The Majestic and who is also familiar with the kind of problems they have had at the Majestic - and in downtown Silver Spring in general - I'm always thrilled to see a police presence. I've never seen any patrons of any race there being hassled by any officer, and I can't remember the last time I didn't see an officer somewhere in the theater. Good for The Majestic for keeping things orderly and for helping our community of police officers support their families with a little extra part-time.

Anonymous said...

I've been to the Majestic a few times to see sold out shows, but I don't ever recall armed security guards inside the auditorium itself, either at the entrance or in front of the screen, watching the audience, as was alleged here. Lobby, sure. But not ever in the auditorium itself.

But maybe I've just been lucky that way.

Anonymous said...

Victim culture and race baiting. Glad you've taken this position. This story is annoying.

DivineMsK said...

Um. They also had armed police officers at the midnight showing of the final Harry Potter movie.

Anonymous said...

I see officers there, and more than just 1 or 2 armed ones, just about every time I go to that theater. For what it's worth, I only go when a big time or well advertised movie is coming out, so I think my experience may be some type of trend indicator there.

Anonymous said...

My concern is ... how long before some rowdy teen gets shot by one of these policemen? And what if it's my teenage son?

I do'nt think armed policemen are necessary inside the theater.

RoseAG said...

She probably should stick to movie theaters in Bethesda.

I've noticed a trend towards giving security guards something to do on their watch. It makes them a bit more useful to management and probably makes the time go by more quickly.

Downtown Silver Spring is not short of security, which is a good thing. It makes it a nicer place for patrons of all races to frequent.

Anonymous said...

Stupid story started by clueless people. Creeping militarism of American culture is a legit problem but this is not an example of it and it's certainly not racist.

Craig said...

Google fucked up my post. It was a long winded post anyway.

Here is a brief version: my fellow people of Silver Spring. Here is a message for you. You see cops as "keeping things orderly" for theater goers. Did you ever consider that many law-abiding black Americans have encountered humiliating situations with police officers? Hello...Stop and Frisk in New York City!!!!

For once, change your perspective and pretend that you have brown skin instead of white skin. How would the situation appear to you if armed guards were in the movie theater while you were watching "The Butler"? Would you really feel that cops were "keeping things orderly"? Or would it be intimating a predominately, mature black crowd watching a film that chronicles a civil rights struggle?

Perceptions matter. Experiences have an impact on perceptions. And frankly, most white Americans don't have a whole lot of bad experiences with cops. White people don't have to worry about Stop and Frisk or getting pulled over because they were driving a trendy import vehicle.

Think...my fellow Silver Springers.

Anonymous said...

"The almost entirely black audience of #TheButler was subjected to watching the film while armed guards faced the audience. Why? @RegalMovies" - If this is true I'm with her. But, I have my doubts to her truthfulness here.

Anonymous said...

Another thing about racism here. Yes, it would be racist if guards were ordered by a non-black person in charge to stand in front of the theater full of a majority black audience during a show when they normally aren't told to do so. But, to make that jump and conclude racism without knowing the norm or where this "order" came from seems to be crying wolf. This numbs us from real cases of racism.

Isayaah Parker said...

I for one can't stand going to movie theaters nowadays anyway since its so expensive...and I damn for sure wouldn't want to sit in a theater with ARMED GUARDS scowling at me the entire time. Racist or not, this CANNOT be good for business. Patrons of all colors do not appreciate armed guards standing around as if it's Afghanistan. We all know that people do shoot up movie theaters, but it's rare. My whole thing is, why was this ordered for THIS movie? I've never seen this type of OVERT armed security at that theater before. I'm just saying. I choose to not deal with popular movie theaters if I choose to go to a theater at all. Movies suck these days and I am tired of seeing Black people shoot up the ghetto or serve WHITE PEOPLE to get Academy Awards. (Training Day, The Help) I digress. This was a BAD MOVE....and probably a BAD MOVIE. I refuse to go see it, especially in a theater full of armed guards waiting for Black people to get ratchet.

Anonymous said...

You didn't mention that 2-3 armed security officers were (allegedly) watching the audience during the entirety of the film.

And that apparently, it wasn't a young, rowdy crowd, but a middle aged one.

It makes sense for officers to be in the lobby or for them to double check tickets, or perhaps to be present in the auditorium for controversial films, but this did seem excessive.

Sligo said...

Where does she say police were in the theater the entirety of the film? "Subjected to watching the film while armed guards faced the audience" could mean for 5 minutes. I doubt they'd have multiple security guards dedicated to one theater for 2 hours. (Not to mention the same movie was showing on many screens.)

Anonymous said...

Craig- I have brown skin. I don't care. Your assumption is incorrect. You don't speak for every minority.

Get a thicker skin and stop being a victim culture enabler.

Craig said...

Sligo,

There should not be armed off-duty guards posted in theater rooms, period. Doesn't matter whether they were inside the theater for five minutes or an hour.

Armed security guards in the lobby area I have no problem with. Even then, I would limit the number of armed personnel to 1 or 2 staff.

This is serious overkill by Regal Theaters and the Montgomery County Police. I am glad Regal is getting embarrassing PR out of this episode.

Anon 9:19 AM, I wasn't speaking to you. My message was in response to the white Silver Spring community members who laud police state tactics and question legitimate concerns posed by persons of color.

Anonymous said...

Who gives a shit. Go see your movie and be thankful that the place won't get robbed while your stuffing popcorn down your pie-hole.

Anonymous said...

Craig:

That's wonderful. You're still trying to speak for most minorites.

In addition I've been to non-black movies at that theater where there were armed police (harry potter was one and also for Cloverfield).

So it's not really a race thing. Keep on victiming on!

Anonymous said...

In addition I've been to non-black movies at that theater where there were armed police (harry potter was one and also for Cloverfield).

Were they actually in the auditorium watching you watch the movie, as is alleged here? I keep asking this question and no one seems to be answering it.

Anonymous said...

I think we need to ask the woman who was tweeting about it instead of watching the movie.

Sligo said...

Interesting that DCist decided that unverified claims from someone's tweets warranted a post (and a later update), since they generally don't acknowledge the existence of Silver Spring. Here's the totality of posts on Silver Spring within the last 12 months: 1. Majestic story. 2. No Chompy 3. Metro car fire. 4. Bus crashes into house.

That is all.

Just as well, as the comments sections usually just end up being a forum for everyone to write about how much Silver Spring sucks.

Anonymous said...

^^Dcist is a PC hipster rag. Any race baiting or PC crap they can talk about they will. That is their primary function.

Anonymous said...

It's only a matter of time before DCist joins TBD and Patch in the local news graveyard.

Anonymous said...

What's with the whole talking at the screen thing that many young black kids like to do? Maybe my ears are racist.

Sligo said...

To be fair to the Majestic's audience, I haven't had a problem with people talking in the theater in quite awhile. Then again, I tend to go to IMAX movies now, so I can't even hear the thoughts inside my own head.

Anonymous said...

In my time going to The Majestic I've run into issues with people talking in the theater 2x - 1 time it was a group of middle school white kids sitting in the front row yelling at shit until the cops came and yelled at them and the other time was when a group of 80 year old white women were sitting behind me and talking among themselves throughout the movie.

Neither time did I think "damn *insert race* people" and I certainly hope I'm not racist enough that it would have changed if they happened to have been black instead of white. So yeah, you're ears and the rest of you are racist, unless you yell at white people as a collective group as well, in which case you're just a idiot who overgeneralizes literally everything.

Craig said...

Anon 11:55 a.m.

Lots of black kids and adults watch movies at The Majestic theater in Silver Spring. It's not just about the movies themselves.

Anyone care to comment if there are armed, off-duty cops in movie theaters in Bethesda and Rockville? Cause, you know, most of the theater going people are white in thems parts of the county.

BTW...Keep the color-blind society fallacy alive, Mr. Anonymous. After all, if Obama was elected twice as President of the United States, this must mean rrrrrrrracism is dead, right? Fist pump to you!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps, the issue at the Regal wasn't the movie, or race, or the audience in attendance. Maybe the police heard that someone was planning to do something in the theater during the movie. Something that would have resulted in injury or panic.
I have noticed that all County police officers wear their bullet proof vest all the time. I am in awe that on a 90+ degree day they can wear those vest and the 20# of gear on their belt, and their sidearm and keep their 'cool'.

Anonymous said...

Glad to hear white kids yell at the movie also. For a while I thougt I was a racist! Phew, that was a close call. Now back to the issue at hand, the racist cops at the movie about race with many races attending it. It's a race to the bottom.

Anonymous said...

I'm curious; does anybody know the race of the security guards? Seems like everyone has already concluded they were white, but I don't know how they reached that conclusion.

Anonymous said...

Craig - I can't comment on Rockville, but been to Bethesda several times. And, yes, there are armed secrity guards there.

Anonymous said...

lol@craig and the race baiters. yes there is a race problem in this country.

Yes whining about stuff like this belittles real racism and actual racist issues. Armed cops are all over DTSS every weekend and most evenings. Also most of the kids running around DTSS during those times are minorities. Well that must mean the cops are RACIST YO!

Anonymous said...

Wow, the strawmen are flying around here worse than a tornado through a Kansas cornfield.

I don't believe one person has said one disparaging word about the cops/security guards. In any case, they are simply doing as instructed by the theater management. So why certain people are arguing against that is beyond me.

It is also silly to say that just because there are often cops/security in the lobby or cops/security around DTSS that means per se there must not have been any racially disparate treatment in what was alleged here. If Giant always has security at the door, does that mean they are also justified in singling you out and having one of them follow you up and down the aisles as you go about your shopping? Which is why, and I know I am harping on this, I ask again whether anyone has ever had armed security actually in the auditorium with them watching the audience as they watched the movie, as has been alleged here. Yes, we all know that the theater has security on the weekends or with special events. Yes we know that there are cops and security on Ellsworth. That's all well and good. But not one person has answered the simple question as to whether or not they have encountered what this person claims she encountered.

Whatever the answer is, it doesn't mean the theater acted racist or improperly here, but it would be at least nice to know that the people blithely dismissing it based on previous experience actually had a similar experience.

Anonymous said...

The part where she says the guards faced the audience during the movie is the part I'm having a hard time believing. If it's true, then she has beef. But, she was complaining via tweets from start to finish while there. Makes me think she just threw in the last part to spice it up a bit.

Anonymous said...

"If it's true, then she has beef."

If it were untrue, I'd hope Regal would have made a point to specifically refute it, as it does seem the the most serious (maybe even only serious) charge. That they didn't and rather released a standard non-denial denial lends the accusation some credence for me.

On the other hand, I haven't heard of any other patrons backing up her story (or refuting it for that matter).

Anonymous said...

I've seen armed cops there at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon.

I missed the part of her story where individuals were questioned by cops for no particular reason or placed in cuffs or thrown out of the theater or told to pull their pants up over their underwear.



Anonymous said...


"I missed the part of her story where individuals were questioned by cops for no particular reason or placed in cuffs or thrown out of the theater or told to pull their pants up over their underwear."


Ahhh, yet another strawman. So because what is alleged doesn't conform to your imagined parade of horribles means...what, exactly? I'm having trouble discerning an actual point.

And answer me, were these cops at 3pm on a Saturday actually in the auditorium with you, watching you watch the movie? I still have not heard one person claiming that this happens all the time actually ad,it to this.

Anonymous said...

^^

Must.Find.Racism.No.Matter.What

Anonymous said...

I don't know it's racist. All I know is that there have been many people claiming that this happens all the time and yet not a single person actually confirm that they have experienced the same thing that is alleged here. I am sorry you are too dull to understand the difference.

Anonymous said...

One of my friends was at Regal on Saturday evening to watch this movie and she didn't see the cops act the way this lady was tweeting. My friend, who happens to be black, said that it wasn't such a big deal. If anything is was good that the cops were there to help with the crowd control. They only thing they did was check to see that people had tickets for the movie since it was packed and created two lines since they were still cleaning the theater. Once the staff finished cleaning, the cops let people in once confirming people had the right tickets.

The cops are there every weekend, what's the BFD? I've seen cops do same thing in other movies I've been to that were not so called "black" movies.

The only thing that says about MOCO police is that apparently, county cops are not being paid enough that they have to take a second job to support themselves.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:02:00 PM

My point, zero conflict occurred.

Cop at the Sat 3pm show came in the theater for 5 mins then left. What's your point?

Anonymous said...

I think it is more of a sign of the times with the Colorado Movie Theater shooting. I like to hear more about how was the movie since I be interested in seeing it myself.

Anonymous said...

My point was clear: that you make up stupid standards for what does or does not constitute potentially racially driven behavior.

Also FYI, this had indeed turned into a bona fide conflict, as evidenced by the fact that we and many others are arguing about it.

Anonymous said...

No, this is only a conflict because people are stupid. Just like that twitter lady.

And you're the one creating arbitrary standards for racial actions (which you have no evidence of since many people have chimed in that they have seen armed cops in theaters there and other places before).

But then you move the goalposts and ask if anyone has reported the exact same incident as her (cops facing patrons). Nice.

Keep trying to play the racial card; it's sad but hilarious.

Ismail said...

I am black, and must also defend the majestic. Several of the employees and manager are also black. There are always off duty officers present on the weekends. With what has happened in Denver recently, I for one welcome it. The one point I noticed in the complainers tweek, was there were officers in the theatre looking towards the audience is a first for me. If it were for a few minutes, I could understand but if it lasted the whole movie, I too would have an issue. Unfortunately, since this is never really made clear.

Anonymous said...

Don't know the demographics of the theater goers that evening in in Colorado when a crazed gunman went on rampage...but black or white I bet everything that each each and every one of them wished there was a few armed guards on duty.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, the events in Colorado and other recent mass shootings security is necessary. So much good we could do in the world if we did not have to spent money on preventing such terrorist acts. If some of the tweets about how the security was enforced it sounds like a valid complaint to take to the Majestic's management. I do not think the movie itself was targeted. Judging by its popularity a lot of people want to see it.

Anonymous said...

Every time I've been there on the weekends in the last 5 years there have been cops/guards in there. This is nothing new but the people in the story never went there for a movie before and act like it was just because of this movie. There are also always cops outside the Majestic on the weekends at the intersection.

Anonymous said...

These comments actually make me miss the days of post after post being filled by the guy perpetually complaining about nightlife in DTSS...never thought that'd happen.

On a related note, Society was named one of the "2013 Diners' Choice Award Winners for Top 100 Hottest Restaurant Bars in the U.S." (along with Lost Society in DC). I know the tool out there who thinks "restaurant bar" doesn't count as nightlife since food service = the devil, or something, but FYI for everyone else.

Anonymous said...

Did we ever hear if cops were in the theater the whole time?

The story kinda died on the vine.

Sligo said...

Because it was a non-story.

Anonymous said...

But then you move the goalposts and ask if anyone has reported the exact same incident as her (cops facing patrons). Nice.

Jesus you are thick as a brick.

First off I haven't moved a single goal post. Every single post of mine since my first at 4:26 on August 19 has asked the same question: have you experienced the same treatment?. Why is this relevant? You do know what "same" means, don't you? Apparently not or else you wouldn't throw around stupid accusations like me "moving the goalposts" when I have been entirely consistent.

Second, I am sorry you are too dull to understand why it is significant to ask people that are dismissing an incident on the basis of "it happens all the time" to actually say that they have experienced that which apparently happens all the time.

Again, I don't know if Majestic does this all the time, or whether the twitter lady's story is even true. But I do know that if someone is telling me a store stationing a security guard at their front door is the same as having that guard stalking you up and down the aisles simply because both involve security guards in stores, they are either stupid or blind.

online said...

This story is a security guards whose off day his duty.Its like a interesting and lovely.I like this story.
thanks

online said...

Its post is a armed guard off day like this funny of lot. I like the story very much.
thanks
Private Bodyguard

Orlando Private Investigator said...

Thanks for your good sharing.This story is interesting and lovely.It's about that a private guard whose off day his duty and he to do this day like this. I like that so much.

Thanks.

Bodyguard said...

i am agree with your comments. This is an ideal duty of armed security guard.

savithri laxmi said...

I found this post informative and interesting. Looking forward for more updates, thanks for sharing. . .
Car transportation services Delhi.

Wenhao Guo said...

cheng1029
the north face outlet store
nike air force 1
chanel handbags
cheap michael kors handbags
mulberry outlet
canada goose outlet
replica watches
true religion jeans
louis vuitton outlet
cheap jordans
longchamp outlet
soccer jerseys
ugg outlet
oakley sunglasses
michael kors outlet
swarovski crystal
christian louboutin
thomas sabo uk
michael kors sale
coach outlet
michael kors factory outlet
michael kors uk
hermes outlet
michael kors online
oakley sunglasses
michael kors outlet
ralph lauren uk
cheap nba jerseys
canada goose coats
uggs outlet

tanggalmerah1 said...

Cara Mengatasi Ambeien Wasir | Cara Mengobati Ambeien Wasir tanpa Operasi | Penyebab Kemaluan Mengeluarkan Seperti Nanah dan Darah | Cara Aman Mengobati Gejala Ambeien Tanpa Operasi | Obat Alami Kondiloma Akuminata di Wanita | Terapi Mengobati Penyakit Ambeien Tanpa Operasi | Pengobatan Penyakit Tumor Kanker Alami tanpa ke Dokter | Mengobati Gejala Penyakit Ambeien Berdarah Tanpa Operasi | Tips Mengobati Penyakit Ambeien Parah Tanpa Operasi | Cari Obat Tradisional Sipilis Pada Pria | Terapi Pengobatan Alami Kanker Serviks | Pengobatan Tradisional Penyakit Kanker Serviks

chenlina said...

chenlina20160229
uggs outlet
cheap ray ban sunglasses
louis vuitton handbags
tory burch handbags
coach outlet store online
polo ralph lauren
cheap nfl jerseys
louis vuitton outlet
ugg boots
jordan concords
lebron 11
oakley sunglasses
kate spade handbags
cheap ugg boots
true religion jeans
louis vuitton
ray bans
kobe 10
jordan retro
coach outlet
coach factory outlet
nike roshe run women
tory burch outlet online
pandora outlet
louis vuitton outlet
coach factory outlet
michael kors outlet clearance
ray ban sunglasses
michael kors handbags
coach factory outlet
canada goose outlet
chanel outlet
true religion outlet
louis vuitton handbags
oakley sunglasses
running shoes
michael kors outlet
nike trainers uk
uggs outlet
oakley sunglasses
as

dong dong23 said...

ray ban sunglasses
christian louboutin shoes
kate spade outlet
jordan 6
replica watches
michael kors outlet online
kevin durant shoes
ray ban sunglasses
cheap jordan shoes
replica watches
nike outlet store
louis vuitton outlet
ray ban sunglasses
christian louboutin shoes
toms shoes
louis vuitton outlet
michael kors outlet
cheap oakley sunglasses
coach factory outlet
louis vuitton handbags
retro jordans
louis vuitton handbags
kate spade
jordan 8s
jordan 11s
tory burch outlet
ralph lauren outlet
nike free run
adidas outlet store
burberry outlet
ray ban sunglasses
ray ban wayfarer
tory burch sale
louis vuitton handbags
louis vuitton bags
timberland outlet
adidas originals shoes
true religion jeans
coach outlet
michael kors uk
20165.16wengdongdong

Qing Cai said...

tiffany jewellery
fitflops sale clearance
tiffany and co
cheap nfl jersey
louis vuitton bags
nike roshe run
mulberry handbags
burberry outlet
louis vuitton sunglasses
cheap oakley sunglasses
oakley sunglasses
louis vuitton neverfull
lululemon outlet
discount michael kors handbags
hermes birkin
cartier outlet
oakley sunglasses uk
mbt shoes outlet
oakley sunglasses wholesale
snapbacks wholesale
oakley sunglasses
michael kors handbags clearance
toms shoes
gucci sunglasses
ferragamo shoes
beats headphones
air max 2015
mulberry handbags sale
nike air force 1
fitflop sale
cai20160518

ypo said...

Resep Ayam Goreng
Resep Ayam Bakar
Resep Donat Dunkin
Resep Sop Kambing
Resep Batagor Udang
Resep Semur Telur
Resep Roti Manis
Resep Telur Gabus
Resep Sambal Goreng Kentang
Resep Ceker Setan
Resep Semur Tahu
Resep Soto Medan
Resep Kue Ulang Tahun
Resep Zuppa Soup
Resep Tongseng Sapi
Resep Kolak Pisang
Resep Kolak Biji Salak
Resep Kolak Ubi Jalar
Resep Kolak candil
Resep kolak kacang hijau
resep tahu crispy
resep pastel goreng
resep ketoprak jakarta
resep kentang goreng

Fangyaya said...

canada goose outlet
canada goose sale
canada goose outlet
ray ban outlet
fitflops sale
red bottom shoes
moncler uk
coach factory outlet
gucci belts
cheap oakley sunglasses
michael kors bags
oakley vault
tory burch flats
louis vuitton bags
gucci handbags
jordans for sale
coach outlet clearance
rolex watches for sale
canada goose sale
michael kors canada outlet
louis vuitton outlet stores
cheap ray ban sunglasses
ugg boots
michael kors outlet
true religion outlet
coach outlet store online
fitflops sale
coach outlet online
adidas yeezy
uggs italia
uggs for women
christian louboutin shoes
ugg sale
ray ban sunglasses uk
tommy hilfiger outlet
ralph lauren outlet
coach factory outlet online
michael kors purses
nike air max pas cher
michael kors outlet clearance
20168.18chenjinyan

raybanoutlet001 said...

adidas tubular UK
nike zoom
cheap nfl jerseys
cheap authentic jordans
timberland online shop
air max thea
ray ban sunglasses outlet
louis vuitton handbags
kobe sneakers
discount sunglasses

Unknown said...

air jordan uk first
nike trainers add
boston celtics jersey items!
chicago bulls jersey button
new york knicks jersey sub
nike huarache sheet}
true religion jeans with
tennessee titans jersey Super
nba jerseys post
abercrombie and fitch kids And