Tuesday, July 02, 2013

Silver Spring News 'N Notes

- So Pete's Apizza is fully operational, and has just introduced the "Silver Spring" pizza, which "reflects the cross section of cultures both in our kitchen and in the surrounding neighborhoods". If they really wanted some local flavor, they should offer beef tibs as a topping. I'd buy a slice of that in a second. Pete's pizza is good, but it doesn't come cheap - I ordered a Margherita, basically a fancy cheese pizza, and it cost me $30 with delivery - and that was pre-tip.

- "Here is Ray's the Classics - now, plain The Classics." (Ref) Sadly, this pretty much eliminates the prospect of the former Stage Burger becoming a Ray's Hell Burger. We'll have to see if "The Classics" can succeed where other local restaurants that lost their founders have failed.

- After ten years, Round House Theater will give up management of the black box theater located next to the AFI. Admittedly, this is an area of which I have little knowledge, though the initial response to this move appears to be quite positive. Apparently it will give smaller, competing groups more opportunity to stage productions in this space.

- So the Montgomery County Department of Liquor Control wants to know what it can do to foster nightlife in the county? How about eliminating itself?


- I was somewhat confused last weekend when I saw a food truck operating directly outside Fire Station 1, apparently with the full consent of the restaurant. I would think encouraging food trucks to park outside your restaurant would generally be considered bad for business, but it turns out that this particular truck was Tikka Tikka Taco, one of the competitors in Food Network's Great Food Truck Race, so I expect FS1 had an arrangement with the network. Presumably the show is shooting here for the upcoming season (which begins August 11), so look for Silver Spring to make an appearance whenever the episode ultimately airs.



103 comments:

G. Money said...

Gallery was a great spot and saw many great parties thrown by the 88 crew, but nightlife in Montgomery County is always going to struggle due to population density and transportation issues. Barring some effort to turn Bethesda or Silver Spring into H St. or U St., which would likely end up being some Ballston-like disaster anyway, the best we can really hope for is a good neighborhood bar here and there.

Maybe if the Fillmore wasn't a Live Nation garbage festival...

Learn Every Day said...

Does the Silver Spring pizza have acorns on it?!

Sligo said...

Yes, and penguin pepperoni.

Anonymous said...

The Round House deal is great news, I think. Round House generated some income from the place by renting it to smaller theater groups (and churches!) but they haven't staged one of their own plays there for almost a decade. This is a good opportunity for smaller, local theater groups. I understand that the new "consortium" arrangement is open to sharing the space with Round House and other groups, so it seems like a win-win to me.

Anonymous said...

Weren't they having the Great Food Truck Race finals at DTSS (capital D) the other day? Thought I saw a facebook note from them about it.

G. Money - I don't think anyone wants to see dTSS turn into U St. or anything close to that (and I say that as someone who enjoys hitting up U St. from time to time, but visiting is way different from having to live in that clusterfuck of drunkenness/noise/crime/douchebaggery).

Anonymous said...

But wait, this is obviously crap the nightlife here is already great!*


*proceeds to list a bunch of restaurants as 'nightlife' to prove point

Anonymous said...

...the vast majority of bars have food/restaurant components. That goes for DTSS, DC, and probably everywhere else in the world. Just because Society, Piratz, McGinty's, Quarry House, etc. offer full menus doesn't mean they aren't nightlife.

Anonymous said...

I walked home from SS Metro last night at 8 PM going down Georgia, Thayer and Fenton. All the outside restaurant seating along both stretches was completely full. On a Monday night that is a pretty good turnout.
Maybe MoCo should acknowledge that Fenton Village did on its own what the County is still trying to figure out how to do. Fenton Village has a nightlife.

Anonymous said...

"But wait, this is obviously crap the nightlife here is already great!*

*proceeds to list a bunch of restaurants as 'nightlife' to prove point"

Sigh...

I would surely rather have whatever passes for nightlife in Silver Spring than whatever passes as "a life" for you.

Anonymous said...

Sigh,

have fun at Piratz winner.

Anonymous said...

I've never been to Piratz. Not my scene. But I hope you have fun at wherever it is you feel you need to go to feel fulfilled. Truly.

Mike said...

A group of us went to Pete's last Friday night. The menu looked good (except for the weak beer selection), but it was so freakin' loud in there we couldn't hear ourselves think, much less have a conversation among the group of seven. We left without ordering anything.

Anonymous said...

If you just view the Margherita as a glorified cheese pizza, then why not just order the regular cheese pizza, which would have cost $7 less? Kind of an odd choice if you're sensitive about price.

While I'd love for Pete's to be cheaper, the prices are about comparable to the nicer pizza restaurants in this area.

Terry in Silver Spring said...

The Silver Spring location was treated like a red headed step child by the Round House Theater management. They talked in public about behind worried about how dangerous Silver Spring is as compared to their main site. They left the Silver Spring location dark way too much of the time. Here's hoping the new groups can make use of a good location.

Anonymous said...

the only actual nightlife around here (even though it's not my scene) is Society. I'm glad it's around and hope it stays to prove to everyone that nightlife is actually possible here.

Anonymous said...

Re: Rays the Classics - it could be that Ray finally had enough with Montgomery and Maryland and this was a great way to back out gracefully. This is a very unfriendly place for business and he may have had enough.

Anonymous said...

Re: Rays the Classics - it could be that Ray finally had enough with Montgomery and Maryland and this was a great way to back out gracefully. This is a very unfriendly place for business and he may have had enough.

Perhaps. But I don't recall ever hearing any discontent from Landrum about MoCo. And he is not the type to keep quiet.

I think it more likely he is just bored with the place. How many restaurants has he opened that have now been shuttered for one reason or another? (Three at least). How many new concepts has he promoted only to never actually open (Anyone remember Ray's the Catch or Ray's the Game?) How many new places has he opened recently? (Retro Rays and that cheese steak place at least). Landrum is a tinkerer and Classics was always a bit off his beaten path. I'm just glad he's giving the employees a chance to continue it.

Anonymous said...

big shock. Another nice place in silver spring is soon to be gone. i really liked rays but this is the beginning of the end.

Anonymous said...

Another nice place in silver spring is soon to be gone.

What other nice places are you referring to? Surely not Stage.

Anonymous said...

What I like about the photo at Firehouse is the big silver box in the middle of the sidewalk. Is it for the crosswalk sign? Building utilties are usually buried. I have never seen any other urban area that feels so compelled to fill its sidewalks with so much crap. How do pedestrians who are blind or in wheelchairs ever make it around Silver Spring?
Makes you seriously doubt the abilities of the engineers at DOT.

Why not do a series of photos of the most jammed up sidewalks in DTSS?

Anonymous said...

The big silver box in the photo is the traffic signal controller. Without it, the signal does not work. It has to go somewhere. For reasons unknown to be, they placed it at that specific location in the intersection.

Anonymous said...

"Another nice place in silver spring is soon to be gone."

Ray's isn't gone (read much?). The WaPo article makes clear they have the rights to continue as-is, even with serving the Hell Burger.

I'm excited to see what smaller changes they do make - they alluded to listing to guests and bringing back old favorites. Hopefully that's referring to the inclusion of dessert in the bistro combo and the complementary mashed potatoes and creamed spinach w/the full menu. The place today is as good as it used to be (quality-wise), but certainly not value-wise; any reversion back to what it used to be would be AWESOME and start bringing me back on a regular basis again.

Anonymous said...

listening*

Anonymous said...

"Ray's isn't gone (read much?). The WaPo article makes clear they have the rights to continue as-is, even with serving the Hell Burger. "

actually what that means is, they have the right to call it a Hell Burger, doesnt mean it IS a Hell burger. But doesnt matter, Ray's Hell Burger is only so-so at best.

Speaking of so-so....Pete's too is only so-so. and WAAAY over priced. There is no reason a good cheese pizza should be anymore that $15. In reality is shouldnt be any more than $12(as in most of Jersey and NYC), but then again the one thing the DC area does well is overcharge.

Flippin Pizza is a FAR better pizza

Anonymous said...

Glad you enjoy Flippin Pizza and find it to be a far superior pizza. I think you'll find you're in the minority (ditto on thinking the Hell Burger is "so-so"), but there's nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous said...

"Glad you enjoy Flippin Pizza and find it to be a far superior pizza. I think you'll find you're in the minority (ditto on thinking the Hell Burger is "so-so"), but there's nothing wrong with that. "

You say that like thats some kind of insult? if anything thats great news. It seems most people in this town have no palate and no idea what good food is. This coming from the town that somehow things small food and vegan is "the way to go"......and the same town that thinks 2 amy's is good.

No wonder no one respects the DC area

Anonymous said...

Help me out here. What exactly possesses one to take a simple disagreement about the relative quality of a slice of cheese pizza and blow it up into such a churlish and vapid rant?

Are you really THAT invested in the belief your iteration of dough, sauce and cheese is really so obviously that superior? Jesus, I'd hate to see how you'd react to a discussion of sports teams. Might have an aneurysm.

Anonymous said...

while food snobs are terrible people, he's right DC has very average food at best and the region is known for bland uninspiring fare that is generally horribly overpriced.

DTSS tends to carry that mantle well, even though I disagree about Pete's and hell burger (I like both of them).

Anonymous said...

DC may not be San Francisco or NYC, but to call it average at best is way overreaching. Objectively, almost every list of best food cities puts DC and if you want to just compare cities of similar size, it blows away most competition. NO is of course an anomaly but that is to be expected from a city whose identity is so tied to its cuisine.

And anecdotally, having just come back from a week long trip in SF, and having tried 4 highly regarded restaurants, all were GREAT but there was only one (Millennium fwiw) that I thought "gee...we really have nothing like this in DC and I wish we did." Not to say overall DC is at that level, but I think it can certainly hold its own as a dining destination.

Anonymous said...

im gonna agree- dcs food scene is lame

Anonymous said...

The DC area has an amazing food scene compared to most places in the US. We have some great chefs creating all types of cuisine that most places can only dream about. Most of the country has no idea what Ethiopian, Korean, Vietnamese, Burmese, Indian, or Thai even taste like. Will the haters please tell us what amazing types of food the DC region is missing?

Anonymous said...

Let's start with an even remotely decent southern BBQ joint. Even one.

How about more than 1 good Indian /Pakistani place? (and please dont list the usually places, they are all overpriced and very bad).

How about West African food? The choices are few and far between. Places like Roger Miller are good but the variety is woefully lacking in DC overall.

I think you'd be surprised at the variety of restaurants small town have. Most small towns have a lot of those (sans Burmese and Ethiopian).

And where is a good Korean place? Bon Chon?

I'm a DC person and don't like Baltimore in general but I think the quality and price of restuarants is way better in Baltimore than DC (DC beats it on variety I suppose, but I prefer quality over quantity)

Anonymous said...

Re: Indian/Pakistani. There are 20 Indian Places (21 if you want to count Rasika West) and 4 Pakistani that score a very respectable 24 or higher in Zagat. Either your tastes vary wildly from the average palate, or you really aren't trying hard enough.

Re: Korean. I don't know anything about it from personal experience, but I know Woo Lee Oak is at least respected. And there seem to be a number of solid, if not upscale places around.

Re: West African. I would think we are lucky to have ANY choices with respect to this. And I'll bet that even at the 4 I am able to easily identify, that is more than average when compared to your typical city. But the fact that we are talking about WEST African, not African, mind you, but WEST African food means you're kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Re: Southern BBQ, This one I'll give you. I'm not sure how much better it is in other cities we'd be talking about (excluding the ones actually in the South), though. I'm sure, just by size and scope the mega cities (NY, CHI, LA) are going to have at least some good places.

Shoplifted the Pooty said...

Some form of a BBQ place in DTSS would be good. I think people were expecting Pete's to be a bit cheaper, but its pretty good pizza and I'm glad its here. If you want a better deal, just get a Whole Food's pie to go. Gotta say though I am missing Sabroso, there are no good Peruvian chicken places around. (Crisp and Juicy sucks)

Anonymous said...

Some form of a BBQ place in DTSS would be good.

What?!? You mean the late great Uncle Smitty's BBQ food truck didn't scratch that itch?

I had them twice I believe. Both times was ehhh... And I never wen t back after I sneaked a look inside the truck to see a case of Sweet Baby Ray's Sauce. Homemade sauce my ass.

Anonymous said...

For those who claim that this county is not friendly for business, this is pretty interesting:

http://montgomerycomd.blogspot.com/2013/07/county-home-to-one-third-of-largest.html

Anonymous said...

anon at 4:18.

I'm Indian. Zagat doesn't mean anything to me and I find it comical that you think "i'm not trying hard enough" when I say the Indian in this region is average at best. It is, and I can speak to that with more authority than you I bet.

So wanting a specific cuisine like Nigerian (West African) is "Scraping the bottom of the barrel"? Wow. Do you know how many Nigerian people live in this region? Sorry to break it to you but a lot of people have a taste for that regions food and would expect it in the capitol of the United States.

No there are no "solid" Korean places around.

DC is overpriced and average. And yes based on population it competes against other smaller cities but as the capitol city of the US? It's sadly lacking. Nevermind comparing it to any other major world class city.

Baltimore up north has much better food. Hell Frederick MD beats out anything upscale in DC with just Volt alone (which is good enough to justify its high end prices).

Anonymous said...

so many spot on comments here...DC foodies are waaaaay too snobby.

The food in this town is mediocre at best and caters to the snobby NYC/LA crowd that enjoy paying $65 for a steak the size of a business card and mashed-up who-knows drizzled in froo froo sauce.

While NYC and LA have a range of places to include some great places to eat, mthe overwhelming majority of DC's dining scene is catered to that.

great point someone made...name 1 authentic bbq place withing a 25 mile radius of DC. Oh there are some fair places like rocklands.....but thats not realy authentic BBQ..thats hipster catered bbq.

of course..Pizza? oh there are some decent places like Flippin Pizza or Wise Guy's but they are still catered to snobby hipsters. No really pizza place in NYC or Jersey sells "kale pizza" or "mashed potato pizza"

Get real DC! this is why no one likes us

Anonymous said...

I don't care that you are Indian. And I don't care that Zagat doesn't mean anything to you. It is at least a somewhat objective take on the subject other than sweeping and unsubstantiated claims of "overpriced" and "average." And in any case, you didn't claim the region was average wrt Indian. You claimed there wasn't more than one "good" Indian place in DC which is absurd on its face. You are simply one of those all too typical snobs that thinks dumping on whatever restaurants that serve food from whatever culture your family happens to hail from gives you some sort of authenticity cred.

And as I said before, there are at least 4 West African restaurants around. You may apparently think there should be one on every corner, but it is indeed scraping the bottom of the barrel when you are complaining there aren't more than 4 restaurants of a cuisine that (sorry to break it to you) wouldn't even make a top 50 list of cuisine types in the US that are on our minds or sought out.

And I never claimed DC was an international dining destination. It is not. And I am not sure how the fact that it serves as a national capital (one of the smallest not belonging to a third world country) is supposed to mean it can automatically sustain a restaurant biz co parable to cities 5-10+ its size. That is an absurd standard to hold it to.

And your comment on Frederick being better for upscale based on one restaurant is simply the icing on the lack of credibility cake. Thank you for doing it so much better than I could have ever hoped to.

Anonymous said...

Someone who thinks Flippin Pizza is high quality... well... let's just say that it makes any other food opinion of theirs highly suspect.

An Indian person who loves Flippin Pizza and can't find a good Indian restaurant in the DC area? Yeah... that's not a person I'm going to trust for restaurant picks.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:36

why would you assume that it's the same person writing that? Maybe because your an idiot. Or an Ass. That's what assume is, makes an ass out of u and me.

Point is, I wrote that about flippin pizza, cause im from jersey and know what real pizza is suppose to taste like(and they are about as close as this sorry town is gonna get to real pizza). I've never had indian food, nor do I have any desire too.

Anonymous said...

Such a shame, the comments on this site had been informative for the past few articles. Now I see the "steve" commenters of the world are back.

I particularly like the kid who thinks everyone else in DC is "snobby", but also thinks he's the only one who knows what true pizza is, since he's from the amazing state of NJ - and true pizza tastes like Flippin Pizza. Freaking hilarious.

Not to mention he has the gall to claim "the food in this town [DC] is mediocre at best" when the kid has never even had Indian food - and doesn't even want to try it. Yeah, buddy, you're the arbiter of good pizza and what a high-quality food scene looks like. That makes a lot of sense. You should hang out with the guy from India who thinks he's the king of what Indian food's supposed to taste like and apparently has tried all 100+ Indian restaurants in the region and can sufficiently say each and every one of those Indian chefs suck.

Anonymous said...

It's quite telling that someone who is not from India is telling someone from India what Indian food should taste like.

Truly the epitome of the Silver Spring Hipster snob. Amazing.

Anonymous said...

Just shut your uneducated mouth, kid who thinks Flippin Pizza is "real pizza" (and whose bona fides are that he lived in NEW JERSEY, lol). You're the snob here, along with the guy who thinks he knows more about Indian food than every single Indian chef in the region.

Anonymous said...

its always fun to watch a hipster dummy lose theirs minds online.

Anonymous said...

"It's quite telling that someone who is not from India is telling someone from India what Indian food should taste like."

Even if this person is from India, (guess what...I'm from India too! Okay, not really but it only took 3 seconds to write it) why do you assume no one from there has a shitty palate? You know who else is from India? The hundreds of Indian chefs and Indian restaurant owners that run the dozens and dozens of Indian restaurants in the area. I guess we are to assume they simply know nothing and instead trust some anonymous yahoo who claims to be Indian and who claims not to be able to find more than one good Indian restaurant in DC. I guess we are also to dismiss the bona fide accolades many Indian restaurants around here have received and people like Ashok Bajaj--I mean sure he has only opened three wildly popular restaurants that have won many local and national accolades---dude simply DOESN'T know good cooking!!! I know because Anon 909 claims he is Indian and that Bajaj is "very bad."

Anonymous said...

Why do people on this blog have to start attacking people, states etc personally instead of having a calm discussion? A lot of online "tough guys" here who would cry to mommy in a real fight. It's okay to disagree but do it in a calm and respectful fashion.

Regarding pizza, I've lived in NJ, Brooklyn, Boston, went to college in Manhattan, and have lived in Rome. In my opinion (north) Jersey has the best thin crust pizza, Brooklyn the best Sicilian. I actually think Rome had the worst. In my opinion Flippin pizza is actually fairly good thin crust. I also think Flippin would have a difficult time staying in business in NJ or NY charging 20 bucks a pizza that is probably inferior to your average pizza parlor. I didn't love Pete's but will try it again for sure. For pasta I think Olazzo does pretty good red sauce. Haven't tried Vicinos (sp) but have heard positive things.

As for DC, I think it can be very good, but it's also extremely expensive and mostly high end.There seems to be no mom and pop restaurants that are priced reasonably and also quality. Then again Manhattan doesn't really have that anymore either.

But uh yeah, everyone calm down a little.

Anonymous said...

^^ Agree with anon 9:03.

Love the ranting and personal attacks because I'm Indian.

I'm not saying Indians don't have bad taste, I'm saying they would probably know more about Indian food (especially if they have lived there and grown up there) than lets say Zagat might.

And there's nothing wrong with Flippin Pizza. The above anon is correct, it's not amazing and would survive in NJ or NYC but around here? It's as close to an authentic NYC style cheese pie as I've tried.

I'm sure there's something better somewhere but I haven't seen it.

DC is average. That doesn't mean "very bad" or very good. Some places are good, some places are terrible.

Again the fact that you're flying off the handle (Anon July 9 7:02 AM,July 7th, 8:49 / 9:17pm, July 8 12:47AM) just shows you are overly defensive as to anyone who disagrees with you. That's a trend around here with the defenders of this area. Nevermind dismissing Volt because it's in Frederick is laughable and shows a very narrow mind with food choices.

FYI, Ashok Bajaj is not terrible but his food in the US is not even trying to be authentic Indian, which he even admits. That's why singling him out as an authentic Indian food source is comical.But then you'd have had to actually go to NoPA or Rasika and compare it to actual Indian food from the homeland to know the difference instead of just reading about it.

Either way, it's not a huge deal. Calm down. No one is buying this fake tough guy act and no one feels like fighting over a difference in food opinion. DC is generally regarded as average by most national sources. Deal with it.

Anonymous said...

DC was regarded as a mediocre place for foodies 15 years ago, but these days it's highly regarded. Are we San Fran or NYC yet? Nope, but we're 10x what we were when I moved here a decade ago. If you don't believe me I'd encourage you to read the expert opinions out there or just hit up Logan Circle/Penn Quarter/Dupont sometime (not to mention all the great restaurants that have been out here in the suburbs for some time - DTSS and Wheaton being gems right in our backyards. And Bethesda, if you know where to look (Woodmont Triangle)).

Anonymous said...

I'll say one thing - people in Silver Spring are passionate about their food. The food rants get the most comments of any other topic. It is nice that DTSS has enough food variety to have fights about.
Let's face it - 25 years ago the DC food scene was terrible. People took the shuttle to New York or Philly for a fine meal. The DC food scene now is much improved and getting better. We're no NYC, LA, or Vegas, but people don't have to leave town to get a 4 star meal anymore.
Does anyone remember Red Sage? That was a turning point in my eyes - a high quality restaurant that wasn't French, a steak house, or traditional American cuisine. And it had a waiting list a month long the first year it opened.

Instead of ranting online at one another - how about listing your favorite 5-10 restaurants in the area. I would be interested for some new places to visit.

BTW: You have heard of Roger Miller's African Restaurant? Not my cup of tea, but its got a good reputation.

G. Money said...

One thing the DC food scene has plenty of is jerks who like to complain about everything online. Too many, even. Send 'em to New Jersey.

Anonymous said...

Love the ranting and personal attacks because I'm Indian.

There are no rantings or personal attacks because you are Indian. The only thing "because you are Indian" thing going on here is your claim to authority because you are Indian.

"FYI, Ashok Bajaj is not terrible but his food in the US is not even trying to be authentic Indian, which he even admits. That's why singling him out as an authentic Indian food source is comical.But then you'd have had to actually go to NoPA or Rasika and compare it to actual Indian food from the homeland to know the difference instead of just reading about it."

First off, your original statements were not measures of authenticity of the cuisine as compared to Indian restaurants, they were measures of quality, which you said (with one exception that you have yet to name) were below decent. And to compare any Indian restaurant in the US to anything but other Indian restaurants in the US (since we are talking about the relative quality of US dining scenes) is disingenuous.

Also, were you so up on Bajaj's cooking as you claim to be, you would surely know that NoPA isn't even an Indian restaurant. So why you would ask me to compare that to authentic Indian cooking is baffling. Why would you not mention Bombay Club, his original restaurant, which is certainly tradiional? I'm forced o conclude that either you don't know who he is, and haven't actually been to his places and just googled the name to quickly write down the first two restaurants that came up, OR you can't distinguish American cuisine from Indian. In either case, your credibility is zilch.

"Nevermind dismissing Volt because it's in Frederick is laughable and shows a very narrow mind with food choices."

Another completely disingenuous claim. I didn't dismiss Volt because it was in Frederick. I've eaten there and liked it very much. I specifically said your opinion that Frederick was better for high end dining based off the presence of one restaurant shows you have no credibility.

Sorry I won't "calm down" when you are literally lying about what I said.

Anonymous said...

I have gone to Roger Miller and it's not bad at all. Really enjoy some dishes there. But still the area could use more places like Roger Miller. I think it's a little too skewed Cameroonian over Nigerian (which is what I prefer).

For my tastes probably Mandalay is the best place in DTSS. However they seem to know this and are raising thier prices all the time to ridiculous levels seemingly because they can.

I liked Kitchen Bar but not so sure about the new Chef, the food has taken a dive in quality but not price.

Anonymous said...

And anon 1:15 proves once again why he's completely off his rocker when it comes to anything critiquing the area.

Keep it up with the personal insults and tough guy attitude. Very amusing.

Anonymous said...

Seriously, are you still trying to convince an Indian about authentic Indian food? What a giant unlikeable know it all dummy you must be in real life.

Anonymous said...

Keep it up with the personal insults and tough guy attitude. Very amusing.

Me thinks you don't know what wither the word "personal" or "insult" means. Criticizing someone for verifiably not knowing what they are talking about, or for verifiably lying about what someone said is not a personal attack. ACCUSING someone of personal attacks, however, makes a dandy diversionary tactic when they can't address the merits.

Anonymous said...

Seriously, are you still trying to convince an Indian about authentic Indian food? What a giant unlikeable know it all dummy you must be in real life.

This "authentic" Indian claims I should compare the food at NoPA to "authentic" original food. That should tell you everything you need to know about the credibility of that source. If you don't know why, look up what that restaurant serves.

Do you really just swallow whole what anyone says on the internet just because they typed it? What a giant, gullible dummy you must be in real life.

Anonymous said...

Correction--This "authentic" Indian claims I should compare the food at NoPA to "authentic" Indian food.

Anonymous said...

^^

Again, you are claiming DC has great Indian food. Most Indians would disagree. Feel free to tell people who are from a culture how their own food should taste. Doesn't make you look like a prick at all.

And Mr. Bajaj is not even close to the most authentic or best Desi food you can find in this area. But you wouldn't know that becuase you're clueless. Of course during your ranting you didn't bother to consider that maybe he is catering to Western tastes and has altered his food to appeal to the masses (which he has admitted before).

And yes, sorry to tell you the reputation Nationwide is still there, DC is overpriced and completely mediocre overall. There are some standouts but mostly everything that is really good is far overpriced for what it is.

Please stop trying to act like you know what Desi food should taste like. It's typical and incredibly insulting. Yes, telling someone from India (born and raised there)that they don't know what fgood authentic Indian food is like is a PERSONAL insult. Incredible that I have to spell it out, but that's too be expected from you I suppose.

Have you even attempted to cook a dish? Do you know what goes into it? (I can't wait till you google up some dishes and claim to know all about them).

Please tell me if you know so much the regional differences between different types of Indian food. Let's start with the difference between the food found in homes of people who speak Kannada vs. Punjabi people.

Quick get your google search on!!!

or better yet name a good place for moolee ka paratha here. I bet you have to google that one too.

Anonymous said...

Right after you explain to me why I should go to NoPA.

Anonymous said...

because you're an idiot. Nice try trying to prove someone is not an Indian. Really shows what a kunjar haramzada you are.

Next time you type something try to step back from being a hipster know it all and try to get out more. You don't know anything about Indian food.

And you should go to NoPA so you can see how average Mr. Bajajs food is. Lol@citing him but not being able to name one place where actual desis eat in the area. Dummy.

Please tell us more about why you know more about how NYC style pizza should be to the guy who is from that region. Hilarious.

Anonymous said...

Again, you are claiming DC has great Indian food. Most Indians would disagree.

I am saying DC has great Indian food as compared to the vast majority of the United States. You really need some help in the reading comprehension department. And I am quite familiar with Indian cuisine, including its sub regions. I once planned an entire day in London around trying out a Kerelian restaurant there, Rasa Samudra, because it was like nothing I could ever find here in the states. And if I wanted to tell you about actually cooking Indian I would pull out one of my recipe books, not google. Bangali Fish Stew is my favorite, but mustard oil is awfully difficult to find!

Anonymous said...


"And you should go to NoPA so you can see how average Mr. Bajajs food is."

Let me quote:

"But then you'd have had to actually go to NoPA or Rasika and compare it to actual Indian food from the homeland to know the difference instead of just reading about it."

You did not claim I should try it to see how average his food is. You said I should go to NoPA in order to be able to compare it to actual Indian food from the homeland.

And I am so far from a hipster, it hurts. A 36 year old, slightly overweight attorney that owns wears shorts and polo shirts pretty much all summer long. But of course, being blindingly wrong is seems to be your MO.

Anonymous said...

Spice of India in University Blvd usually has it.

Actually tons of random small towns in the US have better Indian food than DC.

Furthermore there is a horrible lack of South Indian food in DC (and MD/VA) also. In general to get decent food from there you have to go to NY or NJ (there are southern indian placese all over North Jersey).

I don't have any recipe books but i make a mean bhindi

Anonymous said...

Anon: no one cares how fat you are or how you dress. You ACT like a hipster online. About everything.

I'm sure youre relatively meek and pleasant enough in real life.

You can quote all you want: the point is the the cook in question is not as good as you think, no matter what Zagat says. But keep trying!

Tell me more about this magical trip to London and how I'm not Indian. That should be funny.

(Not shocked you are a lawyer by the way given the way you attempt to twist words and only argue based on semantics).

I learn something every day, a hipster lawyer. That's cute.

Sligo said...

Real hipsters only eat at food trucks.

Anonymous said...

(Not shocked you are a lawyer by the way given the way you attempt to twist words and only argue based on semantics).

Accusations of "twisting words" and resorting to semantics are the last resort of a person who knows he's been caught lying.

Now about NoPA...still waiting for an answer.

You can quote all you want: the point is the the cook in question is not as good as you think, no matter what Zagat says. But keep trying!

Not just Zagat, but also dozens and dozens of critics and the James Beard Foundation. But hey, its only their job. What do they know?

Anonymous said...

Real hipsters only eat at food trucks.

And we even have a vegan one right now! That's gotta be the hipster-est of all the hipster food trucks, right? Or is veganism not hipster? Hmmm... We'd better consult our Indian hipster expert here for a final ruling.

Anonymous said...

Yes I'll trust a food critic over someone who has grown up in country. Typical hipster know it all ullu ka patha.

Already answered you about NoPA, you already admitted that you don't know anything other than googling things and reading about them in restaurant reviews. Typical hipster clown.

As for food trucks and staying relatively on topic: Where has that Kathi roll food truck gone?

Sligo said...

Re: Where has that Kathi roll food truck gone?

Once it actually was able to move around on its own rather than being a stationary trailer, it was suddenly got too good for Silver Spring. It can be found around DC at lunch time.

Speaking of hipsters and food trucks and bad Indian food, I'm surprised no one has brought up the Fajol Bros. in the conversation.

Anonymous said...

Already answered you about NoPA, Typical hipster clown.

No. You simply avoided defending what you originally asserted and are now claiming you asserted something you didn't. You do know how this "internet" thing works, right? People can actually go back and read what you actually wrote.

you already admitted that you don't know anything other than googling things and reading about them in restaurant reviews.

And again with the reading comprehension. I've been to every single Bajaj restaurant except Rasika West and NoPA. But I at least knew enough about that place to know it wasn't Indian. Didn't have to google that.

Where has that Kathi roll food truck gone?

You mean Rolls on Rolls. You should know that, since you know the Indian food scene here in DC so well. And because I actually ate there a lot and talked to them often, I can tell you they moved to DC proper and have an actual truck now.

Anonymous said...

No one cares if you've been to Bajaj restaurants. You are a joke that gets ethnic food information from restaurant reviews and then talks down to people of those ethnicities like you know know more about thier own food than they do.

Typical lawyer, exist only to piss people off. What a gaddha you are.

And why would know where a food truck matter? You are incredibly pathetic? You talked to them? Way to be an authority now.

Hey what happened to trying to saying I'm not Indian? Is this how your do your job? "Your honor I googled it and reviews online agree with my argument".

Anonymous said...

You are a joke that gets ethnic food information from restaurant reviews and then talks down to people of those ethnicities like you know know more about thier own food than they do.

Let's be clear. I am talking down to YOU, not "people". And I am claiming YOU have no rational perspective of the relative quality of the DC dining scene, not only with respect to Indian but in general. I don't know if that is borne from a lack of experience, some sort of general animus toward DC or (as I speculated before) simply trying to earn authenticity cred by claiming that everything sucks (which is actually far more hipster than anything I have done here).

What a gaddha you are.

Aww... it is super cute how you now keep throwing in "authentic" words to buffer against the glaring credibility issues exposed by the fact you tried to send me to a non-Indian restaurant to get an idea of how it tastes compared to food in India.

And why would know where a food truck matter? You are incredibly pathetic? You talked to them? Way to be an authority now.

And ate there many times. They were nice guys. That is the only food truck I have been sad to see go. And I don't believe I ever saw them in one restaurant review...so that is odd. Because that is obviously all I know about Indian food.





Anonymous said...

Lets be clear, you were talking down to the guy from NJ about NYC/NJ style pizza too.

What an incredible hypocrite you are. You clearly are the best lawyer in the world with arguments like these.

Now go look up some more mediocre overrated stuff on Zagat. My "credibility lacking" ass will go home to my family and enjoy homemade actual Indian cuisine from the home country. Something you'll never experience. So sorry!

Anonymous said...

Clearly your family should open a restaurant.

Sligo said...

Well, this is timely:

http://gawker.com/is-anything-in-this-new-york-times-review-of-that-d-c-709218047

Anonymous said...

"Lets be clear, you were talking down to the guy from NJ about NYC/NJ style pizza too."

No, that was me and I'm not the lawyer (sorry, I didn't read all your back and forth waste of space, but figured I'd let you know I'm the guy who makes fun of the Flippin Pizza guy who also thinks he has the bona fides to pass judgment on DC's food scene as "mediocre" even though he 1. thinks Flippin Pizza is the best pizza in the whole region and 2. hasn't ever bothered to common ethnic foods like Indian). Can everyone move on now? Or does the guy embarrassing himself need to call everyone "hipster" a couple more times?

Anonymous said...

How about you give us your "best pizza" in the region (best NYC style)?

The only one embarassing himself is the guy who thinks he knows ethnic food from Restaurant reviews.

Anonymous said...

Sweetgreen will be opening within the week, for anyone who cares about actual news more than trying to whine about x, y, or z reason why DC/Silver Spring/Hipsters/Yuppies suck/are worse than NYC and/or India.

Anonymous said...

Yeah... me, the lawyer, signed off this argument three and a half hours ago.

Looks like I'm not the only one that thinks you a tool.

Too bad I'm not invited to your family's home. I'll bet the food your momma makes is almost as good as NoPA's.

Anonymous said...

Sweetgreen will be opening within the week, for anyone who cares about actual news more than trying to whine about x, y, or z reason why DC/Silver Spring/Hipsters/Yuppies suck/are worse than NYC and/or India.

Pffft...unless you were born on a farm, literally delivered in the middle of the field while your mother continued to pick the tomatoes from the vine--like I was-- you have no business opining on salads.

G. Money said...

Hi, I'm from [insert country] and let me speak on behalf of every person from [insert country] by saying that there is no authentic [insert country] food in [insert city], and I should know, because I said so.

Anonymous said...

How about you give us your "best pizza" in the region (best NYC style)?

The only one embarassing himself is the guy who thinks he knows ethnic food from Restaurant reviews.

amen....odds are that jerk will probably say best pizza is papa johns....or worse...Ledo's



Though its funny everyone keeps assuming someone else is someone else. Odds are its the same 2 people.

Though I will say this town has way too many food snobs and everyone thinks they know how other people's foods should taste. You got the guy from the South telling others how pizza should taste, the guy from SanFran-Gay-sisco telling us how bbq should taste and what the guy from NY thinks Indian food should taste like.

Point is, unless you grew up with that food, in that particular region, pretty sure your just talking out of your ass.


Btw, I'm the origonal guy who thought flippin pizza was the better pizza in the area....and yes I grew up in Jersey, so I know better pizza than the guy who grew up around here

Anonymous said...

Hi I'm an obese hipster that thinks I know more about everyones cultural cuisine and place of origin simply because I am fat and because I eat a lot and am a whiny hipster, I am an expert.

Hi. I'm somebody that is too blindingly oblivious to notice that the last poster actually put their name and is therefore not the person I meant to refer to.

Anonymous said...

amen....odds are that jerk will probably say best pizza is papa johns....or worse...Ledo's

Surprise! That jerk actually likes Flippin Pizza pretty well, though hasn't tried Pete's (or Pap Johns or Ledos, for that matter). Which goes to show, more or less, you are indeed talking out of YOUR ass.

Anonymous said...

the guy from SanFran-Gay-sisco

FWI, this says as much about you as we really need to know.

Lisa said...

I am a Whole Foods fan except for their pizzas -- way too much cheese, disgustingly heart-attack thick. Odd coming from a supposedly health-conscious grocery store.

Anonymous said...

Dear "Indian Guy [IG]" and "Lawyer Guy [LG]",

Can you both clam up... or take your meds... or get a room? [IG: love how you complain about attacks but then launch a ton of your own. Keep it classy! LG: love how you try to cross-examine IG. Why not save that for the bench. Most everyone sees what IG is - we're not stupid.]

Next...

Please note that in order to compare NYC pizza to DC pizza you'll first need to establish your favorite NYC pizza... and that's another lengthy argument just waiting to be posted here (even though anyone with half a brain knows that Arturo's [coal fired] on Houston makes the best - and if you disagree i'm going to call you names in Hindi).

G. Money said...

I prefer Vace's pizza. Cheap, excellent crust, good sauce to cheese ratio. I've never had Flippin' but I guess I should give it a try.

Also, when mentioning Ledo's you should distinguish between the chain Ledo's and the original Ledo's (in College Park), as they use very different recipes.

Anonymous said...

Would somebody please start a Silver Spring Food Blog - so these long winded food rants have an appropriate home.
Or how about Bread sticks at 10 paces in front of Pete's. Survivor buys beers for the house.

Anonymous said...

The Long Branch Sector Plan is up in front of the County Council tonight. The future of the Flower Theater and its commerical strip will be determined in the coming months. The Planning staff is recommending historic designation for the Flower Theater but not the connected mid century commercial strip. The Owner of the Flower and shops has proposed tearing the whole thing down and replacing it with a hi rise residential building.
The County Council usual sides with developers so the hearing tonight is important. You can watch online and email the council by 5PM tomorrow.
Portland has done a great job of adapting old theaters into popular brew pubs with live music. Silver Spring can do the same with the Flower and the Seco Theaters. Or have a thriving commerical development like the Silver Theater.
The Flower and its strip should be saved from the wrecking ball just like the Silver Theater was saved.

Anonymous said...

Where is the Flower Theater?

Sligo said...

http://www.silverspringsingular.com/2011/03/what-next-for-flower-theatre.html

Anonymous said...

On Flower Avenue, just off Piney Branch in the eastern part of Silver Spring, near Takoma Park. It has a nice Art Deco facade.
There was a post on this blog site about 2 years ago.
Both the Theater and the strip have been altered, but could be restored like the Silver Theater development was restored.

Anonymous said...

Really nice post about the Flower back in March 2011. Great photos.
Sligo, will you be emailing the Council about the Flower?

Easley Does It said...

This is the funniest comment thread ever.

Terry in Silver Spring said...

"Re: Southern BBQ, This one I'll give you. I'm not sure how much better it is in other cities we'd be talking about (excluding the ones actually in the South), though. I'm sure, just by size and scope the mega cities (NY, CHI, LA) are going to have at least some good places."

We're talking the DC area and not just DTSS, right? Try Texas Ribs and Barbeque in Clinton, MD. It's just off Branch Avenue near Andrews AFB. AWESOME.

Has anyone tried Urban BBQ here in Silver Spring? I keep meaning to, but haven't gotten there yet.

Anonymous said...

Watched the County Council Hearing on the Long Branch Sector Plan last night via the video link. If you have to watch a County Council Hearing, doing it at home with a drink in your hand is the way to go.
Many residents spoke about their concerns for the Long Branch Sector Plan, and all in all they were thoughtful and intelligent comments.
Except for Dan Reed. He believes that we shouldn't bother saving any building that is old or obsolete from its original use.
That's a Logan's Run kind of reasoning: If you're over 30 you don't count anymore.
With that kind of thinking we wouldn't have the successful Silver Theater complex in DTSS, which was considered obsolete and up for demolition just 15 years ago. Dan's great with charts and maps - but he lacks vision.

Anonymous said...

"He believes that we shouldn't bother saving any building that is old or obsolete from its original use."

The heck are you talking about? I don't know Dan Reed, but isn't he a huge proponent for saving the Flower Theater (i.e. not demoing it)?

Anonymous said...

Yay I made the comment count reach 100! I thank all the other commenters who posted rants and pointed fingers who made this special occasion possible.

Justafed said...

So, it looks like I missed a perfectly crispy thread; oh well.

For Indian food on the east side of the county, I would recommend...going a bit further east and trying Tiffin or the Woodlands restaurants, which are in Langley Park.

For Pizza, I have not been to Pete's yet. Flippin is a chain, and has given me solid slices at other locations. This is kind of important, because half of the problem with pizza around here is not that you cannot find any good pizza anywhere, but that you feel compelled to go to what amounts to a pizza boutique rather than just the place around the corner...unless you live (say) right around the corner from the Corner Slice in downtown Bethesda. Which is by no means legendary, but is exactly the kind of place you should be able to find almost anywhere. But you can't. The cool thing about NYC is not so much that they have legendary pizza places, but that they have so many very good and excellent ones, and you can basically find a decent one by noting whether the place has been open longer than maybe five or ten years.

On the Long Branch sector plan thing...until we know for certain that the Purple Line is really, truly, no way around it coming, everything is just talk, since THAT will change everything. And it will laugh at your silly plan, at least in that neighborhood.

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