Wednesday, September 19, 2012

The Fillmore Just Turned One. Let's Judge It.

From an old post. Just felt like recycling it.

If you've been reading this blog for awhile, you'll recall the contentious debate that went on over the future of the former J.C. Penney building, now home to The Fillmore Silver Spring. Originally, the plan was to open a second Birchmere (the favorite of The Community), but that deal ultimately fell through. The county then made a deal with Live Nation to operate a venue in that space. In response, Seth Hurwitz of IMP and the 9:30 Club protested and submitted his own plan for the space, which he claimed would cost the county less money. I met with Live Nation and IMP to get their perspectives on what their plans for a Silver Spring music venue would entail. Of course, in the end the county stuck with Live Nation and we got the Fillmore, which finally opened last September.

Last year around the time of the Fillmore's opening, I performed a in-depth comparative analysis of the acts booked at the Fillmore Silver Spring vs. those at the 9:30 Club, comparing the mix of genres, age of artists, etc. to get a perspective on how the clubs differed. Now that the Fillmore has a year of performances under its belt, I thought it might be a good time to re-evaluate using a different approach. This time around I wanted to see how the two clubs compared with respect to the preferences of Silver Spring residents, at least the ones who read this blog (you).

I've compiled a list of all acts that have performed at either the Fillmore or the 9:30 Club in the twelve months since the Fillmore's grand opening on September 15th of last year. I also included all the acts booked at the Birchmere, as that venue was also in the mix at one point. Using this list, I've created a simple survey that I encourage everyone to take a moment to complete. While there are a lot of artists/events represented, the survey should still only take a few minutes  - just look at the list of performers and check off each one that you would be interested in seeing. For the purposes of this exercise, don't worry about things like ticket price, schedule, etc. - just assume you got free/cheap tickets.

After a week or two, I'll compile the results and and post a comparison of the three venues based on the preferences of respondents. Granted, this isn't a ideal analysis, as there's no way to know who IMP or the Birchmere would actually book at their nonexistent Silver Spring concert venue, but it's the best I can do at this point and the results should still be interesting.

>>>FILL OUT THE SURVEY<<<



35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ooh, now make a quiz where we guess which venue each act actually played at and see if we're right :)

Rebecca said...

I haven't been to the Fillmore yet, but I walk by there every night on my way home from the Metro and I've been impressed at the range of people it seems to attract. Sure, on any given night the crowd is pretty homogenous, whether it's goths (Marilyn Manson), black teenagers (rappers), skinny white Euro-chic-looking people (Moby), teenage girls (Joe Jonas), Hispanics (Latino artists) or middle-aged white people clearly not from the "big city" (any group that was big in the 80s), but I'm glad to see the acts at the Fillmore are diverse.

Anonymous said...

can anyone say "2nd string washed up bands"

all those bands suck. maybe thats why they play at 9:30 or Fillmore, because they couldnt fill a real venue

Anonymous said...

"but I'm glad to see the acts at the Fillmore are diverse."

Agreed.

Anonymous said...

"all those bands suck. maybe thats why they play at 9:30 or Fillmore, because they couldnt fill a real venue"

Hi, my name is Troll. I only like Justin Bieber and The Wanted.

Anonymous said...

who the hell are "the wanted?" another 2nd string band?

Anonymous said...

You obviously know a lot about music. Thank goodness you've expressed your opinion on this matter.

Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wanted

@ anonymous 2:42 its clear YOU have good taste in music (Sarcasm alert)

yea, cause thats good music (sarcasm screaming off the chart)

Danielle Meitiv said...

I've been tot he Fillmore twice and would have gone more often but couldn't get tickets, babysitters etc. Yes, there are bands I'd love to see at the 9:30 club (Ani Difranco in Nov) but I am so psyched to have live music in town.

Anonymous said...

Really happy its here but:

1. overpriced. Ridiculous for this neighborhood

2. the shows I want to see are sold out and its hard to get in there but I do find a way.

3. Needs to be open as a regular nightclub (like black cat) on nights without a band. NIGHTLIFE FAIL

4. Needs to be open later

5. The area around it really brings it down. No fault of the fillmore, time to lose the Whig store and some of the other run down dumps on that strip

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with the person who posted a few before me that said it needs to be open later and also as a regular nightclub on nights with no bands. Total opportunity to make revenue!

Also, today I got a flyer in my mailbox for Sunday church service (Restore Church) at The Fillmore on October 7. So...that's a little weird...

Anonymous said...

Okay, I haven’t actually been to an act at the Fillmore, yet. But, I must say...I have enjoyed the people watching it produces. Nothing more entertaining on a Friday night than to get a table outside at Kao Thai and watch the ticket holders trickle in.

Anonymous said...

"@ anonymous 2:42 its clear YOU have good taste in music (Sarcasm alert)

yea, cause thats good music (sarcasm screaming off the chart)"

Exactly no one said The Wanted was good music. Great reading skillz you got their, buddy.

Anonymous said...

*there*

Anonymous said...

What I love the most about The Fillmore is that has silenced "the community" naysayers who, before it opened screamed their usual opposition of any develpement by predicting the coming traffic gridlock and parking apocalypse. They warned or the dangers we would be subjected to after 2,000 show goers were let out on the streets at midnight! One guy in SOECA list serve comes to mind with his ridiculous Nazi comparisons to any proposed development.

Obviously none of this materialized and there is no detrimental impact on the community. And the same will hold true for the library (sans bridge), the Purple Line, townhomes on the Chelsea Schook site, and any of the many residential projects under construction or planning in and next to downtown Silver Spring.

It took 10 years to finally get a music hall on this site, but look at how SS has changed for the better! We have far to go, but it doesn't long to see how much better SS will be in the coming 10 years as many more developments/transit projects are built out.

The mor feet on the street, the more retail, restaurants and culture will follow.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the others that say it needs to stay open later or be open on non-show nights. I've been there 4 times and I love having a venue near by.

I saw a show one saturday night and it was over around 10, and we were trying to finish our drinks and within like 5 minutes of the end of the show, they were telling everyone they had to get out now, they are closing.

But overall I like it, though I go to 930 or black cat much more frequently because bands I like are there more frequently. If there were more bands at the Fillmore I'd be there every night I could.

Sligo said...

Open later? Guns 'N Roses came on stage at MIDNIGHT for their Fillmore show. That was late enough (on a weekday, no less).

Anonymous said...

Sligo- pretty sure that's an outlier- I could be wrong.

And its so silly that there is no late night pizza or emepanadas or something nearby. Hence the nearby.

Mike said...

The Fillmore HAS been open on nights with no bands. Typically, they featured some sporting event--football, NCAA tournament, big soccer games-- shown on a 50-foot screen, but they haven't really drawn many people.

Couple nitpicks I noticed about the survey: Jane's Addiction and Hot August Blues were held in Baltimore venues, and you missed J. Geils at the Fillmore last week, Sept. 13 (I was there--great blues show; they stuck to their roots).

Clancy said...

While we're on the subject, I'm also pretty sure several of the acts in the survey only played at Merriweather Post in any of their DC-area performances in the last year.

Anonymous said...

"And its so silly that there is no late night pizza or emepanadas or something nearby."

That takes time. Retail turnover doesn't happen over night. There are things called leases in the world. The fact a space opened up and Stage Burger jumped on it immediately (seriously, didn't they open within 5 days or something?) shows that plenty of business owners see the obvious potential. I'm sure a pizza joint or bar will be next. But, again, obviously such things don't happen overnight.

Anonymous said...

only ethiopian resteraunts open up overnight...and then close 2 days later...and then re-open

Anonymous said...

Yeah I don't buy it- at the rate ethiopian places open here, clearly it's not that hard to take up a retail space.

The space near the American Apparal and liquor story has been empty for how long again?

As for it being open on off nights, clearly they arent advertising enough.

Anonymous said...

@ anonymous 8:36..thank you! spot on!

DTSS has a lot of vacant spaces. problem is we can't get anyone good to want to come here. for example....where the hell is 5 guys? wheres a buffalo wild wings? where is ya know...something GOOD! besides the 8 ethiopian (and thats not an exageration) places to eat in DTSS

Anonymous said...

"where the hell is 5 guys? wheres a buffalo wild wings? where is ya know...something GOOD!"

LOL. Best joke ever...at least I hope it's a joke.

And no, there are no vacancies on the Fillmore block. When there is (like for Stage Burger Lounge) then they'll get snapped up. Feel free to purchase the properties and try to break the leases, if you care so much. There are very, very few vacancies in DTSS. When there are, it's Class C space like further down on Colesville or Class A that's completely removed from everything/set back from the street (Veridian on East-West). Any space anywhere near prime gets snatched up very quickly.

Anonymous said...

where the hell is 5 guys? wheres a buffalo wild wings? where is ya know...something GOOD!

If Buffalo Wild Wings and Five Guys are your examples of good food, you can find Austin Grill and Chick-fil-A right around the corner, with Baja Fresh and Chipotle just as close.

dumbek said...

I don't mind the Fillmore, but it seems like every time I go there there's something that annoys the hell out of me. Whether it's the seating setup, id/wristband process, trying to guess set times or whether or not there's an opening band, etc. It seems like things are sometimes more difficult than they need to be. And it ain't cheap.

The venue is adequate, but nothing special. The acts seem a bit stale to me, but if they're selling tickets, they're bringing in acts people want to see.

The best thing I can say about it is that it's close to home and the bathroom is really nice.

Anonymous said...

Is the annon who always defends DTSS no matter what trying to claim that there are few vacancies in DTSS and especially on the Fillmore block? Good comedy.

Okay fine, how about the block over- the emtpy giant place next to the liquor store and the American Apparel. Could fit in something like a pizza joint for the fillmore there. Why isnt anyone snapping it up?

Next to the quiznos (one block over) there are quite a few empty storefronts (ritz camera) and have been for a while.

but yeah, no vacancies in prime areas in DTSS. Good comedy as always!

And most people think of Buffalo Wild Wings as a great place to watch sports, and hang out...not a place to get good food but keep at on defending!

Anonymous said...

There are exactly zero vacancies on the Fillmore block and you point to the former Ritz Camera space that's filled as well (it's an Hour Eyes) as proof of a high vacancy rate? Good job, buddy. Vacancy rates are easy to find online - DTSS's is one of the lowest in the region. Feel free to look up facts for yourself. Or keep embarrassing yourself on here instead, I don't really care.

Anonymous said...

Still ignoring the emtpy space next to the liquor store I see?

tool.

Anonymous said...

plus you keep forgetting that the whig store, while not vacant, is also never open, same with the "tailor shop" plus half of the 1200 block of east/west highway is vacant. so is 1/2 of georgia ave. yes, there may be no vacanies within 50 ft of the fillmore, but the fact remains there are MANY....MANY vacancies in DTSS

Anonymous said...

The empty space next to the liquor store is under construction too, "tool", I just don't have inside info on what's moving in. Feel free to speak with the owner if you're curious.

"1200 block of east/west highway is vacant."
I'm the one who pointed out those vacancies. Of course Scion is moving in, taking a chunk of the space. Not sure how much is left.

"so is 1/2 of georgia ave."
On what planet do you live? You're beyond absurd. There are plenty of things in life to complain about so feel free to stop manufacturing crap. I'm glad to see you admitted you were wrong about the remainder of your statements, but it sure would be nice if you stopped making up new crap to complain about.

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