Monday, July 30, 2012

Watch the Piratz Tavern Bar Rescue Episode Online

Miss last night's episode of Bar Rescue (or don't have cable)? Watch the whole thing here. Love the episode title: "Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Dumb".

Unfortunately the following footage wasn't included...



Piratz Tavern claims business is much better now. If they make it through the year, I'll believe it.



68 comments:

Anonymous said...

Granted, the host of bar rescue is pushy, loud, and obnoxious... but the owners of Piratz managed to outshow him by a large margin.

Who opens a bar surrounded by office buildings, then openly expresses contempt for business people? You know, those "f***ing a**holes" (as they put it) that you are supposed to rely on for, you know, income?

Since they have such a strong handle on what "target market" means, they're in a great position for their next business venture... maybe a retirement home next to the College Park campus? ...or how about a liquor store next to a preschool?

All frustrations aside, I admit -- "Corporate Bar" may not have been the best concept. Credit is due, however, to the Piratz bartenders/waitstaff for at least giving the new theme a legitimate *try*. I kind of feel bad for them, since they'll be looking for new jobs soon... they seem like genuinely decent folks.

Anonymous said...

I have to say...this whole thing is quite entertaining. Obviously Taffer's "Corporate" name and logo were not right nor well executed...despite the fact that several large companies have their corporate HQs in Silver Spring, i.e. Discovery, United Therapeutics. And even though he came across as an ass, at least he tried, which is more than can be said about the entire Piratz staff including the owner. They are completely dilusional...which was evident by last night's show.

Best line of the night (and there were many!) was when the hostess/server expert was helping Mike properly approach and address customers. She kept having to correct him from speaking in a pirate accent which is apparently his native tounge. She finally said something like (paraphrasing)...try again and this time...think about how the regular people would want to be waited on. His response: "I hate those people"

Anonymous said...

Am I the only one that could not stop laughing at last nights episode? It's so funny to see such dilusional people. Its ok to have dreams but at some point if your dream isnt working out, its time to find a new dream.

It seems every gripe the host had with this show, was pretty spot on to reality

Btw, the make-over they gave the bar, looked freakin sweet. had they kept that instead of gone back to failure, I would definently have made corporate bar and grill a new home. Maybe she wouldnt have been 900k in the whole living in her parents basement with her husband and 17 year old daughter

But instead they f*cked up and went back to their idiodit pirate way.


Though it did seem pretty representative of people in SS in general. Idealistic, rather fail sticking to their guns than face reality. and the world that actually is.

Anonymous said...

The 2 undercover "pirates" had the same experience we did when we stopped by. Nobody up front. We finally tracked someone down and they asked us to wait up front. Then they forgot about us and we left. crazy place...

Anonymous said...

For their sake, I hope their business is better. I'm sure they'll get a boost from the show. They really should have kept the new furniture. Did they at least keep the patio?

Patrick Thornton said...

Do they still have that issue where no one greets you when you walk in? I had the same experience where my party of four walked into the front, no one was there and we tried to find help and then we eventually left.

I think correcting that is step 1 for turning this place around. You can't make money if you aren't willing to take people's money.

I'm very excited to watch this show tonight. It's the Olympics for Silver Spring.

Craig said...

Anon 10:51 said, "Who opens a bar surrounded by office buildings, then openly expresses contempt for business people? You know, those "f***ing a**holes" (as they put it) that you are supposed to rely on for, you know, income?"

Well, actually, I can think of a few places near office buildings in Silver Spring where bar staff could care less about the "corporate customer". Last time I checked, I don't see Quarry House going out of their way to welcome Discovery or United Therapeutics employees.

Most bar and restaurant staff are working-class people or college students and they would be happy just serving the drinks without hearing some ass hole cry in his beer about not getting a promotion to senior vice president.

Anon 12:17 said, "But instead they f*cked up and went back to their idiodit[sic] pirate way.

Though it did seem pretty representative of people in SS in general. Idealistic, rather fail sticking to their guns than face reality. and the world that actually is."

Really, you have the personalities and beliefs of EVERY Silver Spring resident all figured out?

Douchebaggery galore with some of the previous comments.

Anonymous said...

Really Steve, stop pretending your name is Craig!

Anonymous said...

I've never been to Piratz and will probably never go there. But I understand Tracy's POV, Taffer et al could've worked w the pirate theme and concentrated on improving the food/drinks/service. Nothing wrong with the theme, from what I've seen you get a little theater w/ your dining experience. If you watched the Tiki Bar episode, Taffer kept the theme, albeit fitting for Ft. Lauderdale, he just improved the drinks/food/service. Absolutely nothing wrong with the piratez theme but if you're lying to people about the food while mixing up nasty libations and doing so w/ an air of douchebaggery you deserve to be humiliated. By the way, didn't Long John Silver's do the pirate thing way back when?

Anonymous said...

Thanks to Piratz for making Silver Spring a national laughing stock.

Craig probably works there. What a joke.

Anonymous said...

No way that Craig and Steve are the same person. Steve has trouble with the basics of the English language, and his posts are illogical anti-Silver Spring rants. Craig's post is quite coherent and isn't anti-Silver Spring.

With that said, I agree that Craig's defense of Piratz is a little puzzling (QH might not openly cater to the corporate customer, but its owners do not openly express contempt for anyone, as far as I know).

Craig said...

Yeah, I think if you spend some quiet one-on-one time with Jackie Greenbaum, she might share some anti-corporate, anti-Republican sentiments.

But she would not be stupid enough to share her personal beliefs in front of a TV camera. That would be bad for business.

And I guarantee that a regular hipster customer at QH will get faster service than some corporate dude from Discovery. Just sayin'.

Anonymous said...

Craig: "Well, actually, I can think of a few places near office buildings in Silver Spring where bar staff could care less about the "corporate customer". Last time I checked, I don't see Quarry House going out of their way to welcome Discovery or United Therapeutics employees.

[citation needed] .. I don't work in Silver Spring, and I'm not a "corporate" type, but have been to both Sidebar and QH many times. The crowds are an eclectic mix of locals and business people, and the waitstaff are perfectly/equally friendly to them all.

That's why both of those businesses are doing well.

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"Really, you have the personalities and beliefs of EVERY Silver Spring resident all figured out?"

Pot, meet kettle.

Anonymous said...

ya know what is hysterical, I (steve) only made one post...the 3rd one. but everytime someone says the slightest thing critical of SS every moron thinks its me. Did it ever occur to you mental midgets that there maybe be more than 1 or 2 people out there who have seriouse gripes with SS....ya know smart and normal people


But I will acknowledge that the owner/employees of piratz tarvern are probably obama-loving liberals who think the government is somehow going to save them...ya know because according to obama all business' owners didnt get there on there own...the government did it for them (that was to prove it really is me, steve)

Anonymous said...

After watching this i take it back. Taffer was 100 percent right. He should have just called the health inspector on the idiots.

WHAT ARE YOU EMBARRASSED BY?

Nothing.

No more nerds arguing that Tracy and crew are "good people". Basically out to food poison anyone who doesn't dress like a dweeb and treat them like crap. Can't wait till this festering eyesore closes for good.

Anonymous said...

"And I guarantee that a regular hipster customer at QH will get faster service than some corporate dude from Discovery. Just sayin'."

A lot of those scruffy looking people at the Quarry House are scientists from NOAA with advanced degrees.

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Danielle Meitiv said...

"A lot of those scruffy looking people at the Quarry House are scientists from NOAA with advanced degrees."

I can attest to that - I found the Quarry House when a group of fellow NOAA scientists took me there for lunch.

The whole Piratz thing is funny in a sad, pathetic kind of way. I'd love to see them succeed - not b/c of those particular individuals per se but who wants a local biz to go under? My kids love the decorations and would drag me there regularly if the food were edible.

At the same time it is a BUSINESS - not a charity or a kid's lemonade stand that you patronize to show support. Good food + food atmosphere/service = SUCCESS. it's not a complex formula but many find it difficult to implement.

IF they are so enamored of the pirates thing they should join the Society for Creative Reenactments and stop expecting everyone else to support their odd obsession.

Anonymous said...

I'll give piratz until the end of the year.

I garuntee you the only think keeping them from being forclosed by the bank is the bank foolishly thought that with the show, the business would take the suggestions and turn itself into a profitable business.

However, since its filled with morons, piratz wont turn a profit and the only thing stopping the bank from taking it, is it's waiting for jenkins to get back from coffee break to take the papers down to the right department

Danielle Meitiv said...

OK now that I've watched the episode I think the place should be shut down tomorrow. The staff and owners are delusional and have no respect for customers AT ALL. They won't get another dime from me.

Danielle Meitiv said...

Let em amend that - the wait staff tried hard. Tracy id the reason the whole thing went down and doesn't deserve another dime. I feel for the staff who tried hard and wanted to succeed.


The other day I stopped by tot see the reborn Piratz Tavern and the staff didn't seem very happy. Now I understand why.

Nacho said...

I have this weird soft spot for Piratz Tavern. I would never eat there, and I agree that those mixed drinks are nightmares, but I've never had any problems with the staff. You kind of have to be willing to accept the spirit of the place. Which, I suppose, is the central problem. If the owners were independently wealthy and just out on some crazed lark, it would be awesome. (By the way -- we should applaud them for updating the website, and making it a bit more personal and engaging. The Tavern now trades on the controversy of this story...good move.)

The place has so much potential. I just love that patio! My only wish is that they took some of the changes (food, drinks, bringing life to the front room) to heart. But attacking the owners and staff for being delusional is a little misguided... I mean, yeah, obviously, they're a little off center. But the extremity of it was pretty much built up by the show. The artificial drama that comes from editing five days of footage down to 40 minutes. They need to fix many things, including some basic elements of customer service, but I'm disturbed to see all the hate in these comments. If you're going to walk into a bar that is unashamedly quirky and weird, you sort of have to take things as they go.

I think Silver Spring needs weird things like Piratz Tavern. It's an inviting little dose of insanity. A reminder that the town still has some personality. An alternative for a boring day. A strangely welcoming community, once you find your way into the back room. Every now and then, it's important for the suburbanite to step off the well-trodden path. If only to people-watch.

Anonymous said...

@ Nacho

Silver sprind does NOT need places like Piratz....its been there for 5 years and its been a failure ever since it opened.

If Silver Spring wanted to needed a place like this, it would be flourishing

Funny how so many people defend the place, like it just opened last week. Its been around 5 years people. it's great to have a dream and an idea. but if after 5 years it's not working out and your whole family is bankrupt living in your parents basement, it's time to rething your dream.

Anonymous said...

Most people are not bashing this place because it's 'pirate themed'...but rather because the place is being run like a sinking ship...bad food, bad drinks, bad attitude, etc.. I admit the pirate thing is a bit weird but if they had good food and drinks, I would go more often....and probably enjoy the fact that it is 'different'

Terry in Silver Spring said...

No posting about the return of Chompy?

Anonymous said...

@ anonymouse 1100

Im sure everyone would agree our biggest gripe is with how the place is run,

buuuuut. Lets face it, the type of crowd that lives and works in DTSS doesnt seem, to keen on having such an outlandish themed bar. Most people who go to bard just want a decent drink, good atmoshphere and a place to meet other folks just like them. and Piratz was never meant to be that. and thats there problem. They catered to a market they knew didnt exist.

You heard the owner on the show. it was her dream to open a pirate bar. it wasnt her dream to have a successful business.

Anonymous said...

DTSS does not need another corporate bar, we have Society, 8407, and McGinty's (which is a stretch but for arguments sake)and QH sounds like one as well. What we need is a proper sports bar like Union Jacks, Buffalo Wild Wings, or even Hooters. Time for the downtown to capitalize on the RG3 rage and the re-emergence of the Burgundy & Gold.

Sligo said...

I like the idea of BW3s. Rockville Town Center has one.

Anonymous said...

Why would we need any of those things? That sounds like BETHESDA, DC or NOVA bar styles (Union Jacks, wild wings etc.)

Our nightlife is perfect according to the commentators on this blog. A fun hip place to be. No need for those ugly generic places.

I love that we have so many cool sports spots and happy hours spots.

Anonymous said...

I love the sarcasm.

But def agree with the above posts. DTSS needs to egt over its smug self and bring in some decent bars like union jacks or buffalo wild wings (btw, not being sarcastic)

Anonymous said...

C'mon, Juciano can't be his real name. F*cking A**hole sports bar.

Anonymous said...

What about a biergarten?

Anonymous said...

biergarten? this isnt germany...in america we call it a beer garden

But i like the idea

Sligo said...

We say kindergarten, not "children's garden", right?

Anonymous said...

touche

Ian Brett Cooper said...

I felt bad for the owner and workers at Piratz Tavern. The show's host came in with a scorched earth policy and forced the owner to accept a corporate overthrow of Piratz that was purely a cynical attempt to cash in on the people who work at the local office buildings.

There should have been some room for compromise. Sure, Piratz is not the best-run establishment, and clearly a lot needs to be done to get things on an even keel. But destroying the concept altogether? No. I think that's wrong.

I think there's room for people's dreams wherever they are - even in Silver Spring - I think, with good food and service, Piratz could stay a pirate themed bar and make money.

Anonymous said...

Look, Bar Rescue is a reality series and Taffer got the job because he has that "scorched earth policy." If he was all about "compromise," the show would not be as dramatic or controversial thus America would not like it. If I had a business near local office buildings, you better believe I would want to cash in that large pool of customers....it's called common sense. If I wanted a to run a really successful pirate bar, I would move to Tampa Bay (as Taffer suggested) or somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

Finally saw the show. I thought that Taffer's a bit on the abusive side, but that's obviously his personality. The one funny thing was his getting them to use those Round Ice cubes. I looked up online and it costs an average of $6.50 per "cube". Not the sort of thing you have a business in financial trouble using (even with a free month's supply). I wonder how much he made by advertising for them...

Anonymous said...

Ian- the theme sucks. The people suck. The food sucks. The service sucks. It deserves to close.

Anon above- my understanding is that those cubes are reusable all you have to do is rinse them. Not sure how that works with health code.

amelia-g said...

Piratz Tavern needed management consulting, only bigot Jon Taffer gave them contempt and a phoned-in generic bar makeover ill-suited to the area and reportedly in violation of Maryland liquor laws http://www.blueblood.net/2012/08/jon-taffer-bar-rescue-spike-piratz-tavern/

Anonymous said...

for all those people that think a corporate bar was "ill suited" for the area.....heres a question. why is it that during the opening of corporate bar more people lined up that 1 night that probably in the pirate bars entire resteraunt history??

why? because there is a market for that! duh! all you morons that think corporate bar was a bad idea and piratz tavern is a good idea are probably the same people who flip houses and consider lottery tickets as "sound investments"....idiots!

amelia-g said...

Dear Anonymous: Because the producers of Bar Rescue invited them, while refusing admittance to pirate regulars. Spike might not be a major network, but do you really think their producers are not professionals? Pro producers have to be able to ensure a scene is properly cast.

Anonymous said...

Ya know...i had a feeling someone would come up with some bull$hit statement like "they aren’t real people" or "they were bussed it".

Well I got 2 words for you....prove it!

Just because you and the 3 other DC area regulars who like the old crappy piratz tavern cant's accept the new changes doesn’t mean that the rest of the normal public likes the old bar. Plus, did you see the show? Do you not live in the area? Did you not notice the blanket campaigning of the new bar>? They were REGULAR FOLKS from DTSS...i know because I was one of them in that line.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:54

I didn't see where amelia-g accused them of not being real people or being bussed in. She simply said they were invited. Which is undoubtedly true. What is also undoubtedly true is that a good deal of the people there (whether from DTSS or not) were satisfying their morbid curiosity and/or hoping to get their 5 seconds of fame on TV rather than fulfilling some deep, unsatisfied yearning to solicit a bar that, beyond the post-it note order pads and satirical motivational posters, was pretty cookie cutter.

I am not saying that the "Corporate" theme wouldn't be successful, or that that pirate theme was working, but to boldly insist that there was obviously an untapped market for this particular type of bar based on one night, a night that was staged to have a big crowd for the cameras, is absurd.

Anonymous said...

I will have to say the people at Piratz are the dumbest group of people in business I have ever seen . One glaring thing I noticed after the makeover was the presence of customers , wow what a concept . Idiots deserve what they get .

Anonymous said...

Amelia- i randomly was out that night and saw the line. I personally interviewed people in that soft opening line. There were no actors, they had all heard about it or had gotten some sort of flyer invite. Nice try.

Not a big loss refusing admittance to people dressed up like "12 year olds"

Also Jon Taffer is a bigot? LOL. Or he just is only concerned for the bottom line of a business and doesnt have time for people with people with Peter Pan mental disorders who never grew up.

Anonymous said...

"for all those people that think a corporate bar was "ill suited" for the area.....heres a question. why is it that during the opening of corporate bar more people lined up that 1 night that probably in the pirate bars entire resteraunt history??"

LOL, um, they were people who wanted to be on TV. Duh. It certainly didn't have anything to do with the name or ambiance because no one had been in the place yet nor even knew what the name of the place was - the sign was covered while everyone waited in line, dummy! Way to never know what you're talking about, anon who acts like an ass all day.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of asses that speak out of turn to the anon above- I interviewed people in the line.

Besides as much as I dont like the name a Corporate bar type thing hasnt been tried. Dressing up like an idiot has and guess what? It sucks.

Anonymous said...

"They were REGULAR FOLKS from DTSS...i know because I was one of them in that line."

You mean they were the people (residents) that Taffer specifically said the bar should NOT cater to? You know...because DTSS becomes so much poorer in terms of disposable income at night?

Anonymous said...

he said not to cater to losers. he wants to cater to normal people.

Anonymous said...

"You mean they were the people (residents) that Taffer specifically said the bar should NOT cater to? You know...because DTSS becomes so much poorer in terms of disposable income at night?"

Haha, exactly. Taffer's such a joke. Us poor people living in $1600-$2300 1BR apts and condos certainly couldn't afford to step foot in his fancy Corporate Bar and Grill. I mean, my goodness, the fancy paper placemats surely must be out of my price range.

Anyone know what stats the show used? Said something like $95K daytime salary and $32K nighttime salary. Did they use the CBD's daytime statistic and then use Langley Park's nighttime statistic or something?

Sligo said...

Haven't you read the comments on the most recent post? Our best neighborhoods are "shanty towns".

Anonymous said...

I wish $32K got you a rental or piece of property anywhere near DTSS. One would be hard pressed to afford even the junkiest parts of SSINO at that salary.

Anonymous said...

Can you say "subsidized housing"?

Anonymous said...

"Can you say "subsidized housing"?"

Yes, I can. Can you explain what relevance this has?

Anonymous said...

Subsidized housing isn't enough to move the needle, not to mention "affordable" units for rent (12.5% of all units in new builds in MoCo are required to be "affordable") still have an income requirement higher than 30K because they still aren't that cheap (e.g., $1100 for a 1br in south Silver Spring).

The notion the number Taffer cited is anywhere near the "average" income for anywhere near the CBD is obviously beyond absurd. I make 70K a year and still can't afford a decent size unit in most of the buildings in town.

Anonymous said...

"The notion the number Taffer cited is anywhere near the "average" income for anywhere near the CBD is obviously beyond absurd. I make 70K a year and still can't afford a decent size unit in most of the buildings in town."

Those numbers were pulled from the 2010 census for the ENTIRE Silver Spring CDP. So yes, absurd. Like saying you can't do something upscale in Georgetown simply because Shaw is also in NW DC.

Anonymous said...

"Those numbers were pulled from the 2010 census for the ENTIRE Silver Spring CDP"

Haha, I see what they did. They used the income of the CBD during the day, then for night they used the "Per capita money income" (kinda). The show cites $32K, but Silver Spring's per capita income is actually higher - $36,381. That massive rounding down is one issue, but the main problem with that number is he's comparing apples and pencils.

The per capita income is derived by dividing the combined income of the area by the combined population of the area. So in an area with a lot of families, like Silver Spring, the number is heavily skewed. If I live and work in Silver Spring and make $150K, by Taffer's twisting of facts, my daytime salary is $150K, but at nighttime my salary is divided between my wife and kids. So our $150K salary divided by 3 kids and a wife suddenly drops to $30,000.

Anonymous said...

Taffer might be twisting facts but the fact the Silver Spring is one giant unicorporated mass certainly makes it easier.

Elizabeth | The Natural Capital said...

Thanks for posting this. The first 15 minutes makes me glad I've never set foot inside. I'm sure it's completely hyped for tv, but still...

Michael Kieffer said...

Oh lord, where to begin. $900k in debt and the owner living in her mother's basement to support an adult playhouse. You know if these folks were smart, they would sold the "Corporate Bar" make over, payed off their debt and built a private "club house" to play pirate in. I have never understood the mentality of a business owner that desperately hangs onto an obviously failed concept. A businesses one any only job is to make a legal profit. I predict that is won't be long until this place is closed for good.

Anonymous said...

I am in no way a supporter of the Piratz owners as they are obviously in denial, however as much as I love Jon, he went to far. He could have named it something like "the Plank" and the office people could go there for happy hour/lunch etc and bitch about the corporate world (as most people do). I liked the renovations but bar menus that look like desk calendars is too much. To the owners of Piratz: stop dressing like idiots, you are grown ups with grown up problems. You don't have to give in 100% either. Do "treasure chest" promotions that tie with the theme but don't make it childish. "Corporate" was a far too extreme of a change...but as your ideal demographic, a corporate customer between the ages of 28-35, who likes the idea of a "break" from the reality of my job- I would never go there. Maybe for A drink for a co-workers birthday party after work but with no intention to stay. Your staff could wear cute t-shirts that say "The Plank" on them with a skull and crossbones on the back...thinks like that. Oh, and Jiuliano (?) should not be allowed to work there at all- gross. He didn't even try and acted like a baby, that lady needs a smarter husband her own age.

Anonymous said...

Oh, one addition to my comment above: it would have to be a sea food bar and grill for the plank or any vaguely pirate idea to work.

Anonymous said...

OK, I agree that John when too far with that horrible name and logo, he did crush their spirits. Why did he go so far, maybe a slightly more muted pirate theme with a name like "The Cove" or something. But I do think that those people at Piratez are simply idiots and any sympathy I had for them is gone after seeing the clip in this article. I hope they enjoy living a live of crushing debt in the basement, they can pretend it's a brig, what fun they will have for the rest of their life, I'm sure their daughter will understand...

Anonymous said...

What a horrible horrible place!! Talk about rude and OMG.....put your boobs into a support bra girls,especially when they're just plain fat! These two owners are rude.in debt and insane let alone losing all the money for there family to live to just play sinking pirates! Looks like the husband isnot any type of cook and belongs in pre school.I am shocked at a grown woman who is losing everything could not take some good advice to secure her and her childrens future and to put a video of shooting and burning the sign on you tube? How immature and violent she must really be. Lady, show so respect for yourself. I swear you are what gives the human race a bad name and you want kids to go to your rest..? Are you serious? With the filthy language and undercooked food and workers that look like hookers? Get into reality.Thislace makes me sick...sad she has kids.poor kids.

men watches said...

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Anonymous said...

Anonymous here, bar is still open... Sorry guys ;-)
But stop by and have a drink!

Anonymous said...

No vision of future and business, Everything today depend marketing strategy. how things are executed. good treatment, good food, place agreeable A person which live on hole and not accept opinion other people by pride and say: "ohh this is my dream" don´t deserves attention. f***y if is corporate bar or any thing, the question is, or you is a wolf on the market or you is joke, or her start think how businessman or thats no chance for won, it is obvious which nobody likes the place, is simple, basic mathematics, if 10 people likes place and 100 people don´t like, the place is not good and shut up your assholes..(obs: sorry for my english, I´m brazilian.)