Friday, June 08, 2012

Possible Homicide at the Veridian

Homicides in and around downtown Silver Spring are fairly uncommon, and when they do occur, it is frequently in the area surrounding the Piney Branch/University intersection. However, today police are investigating a gunshot death at the Veridian Apartments on East West highway as a possible homicide. Since the Veridian is a controlled-access building, I imagine there's a good possibility the victim knew his assailant, but I guess we'll find out as more details emerge. Hopefully the police will be able to track down the perpetrator in short order.





32 comments:

Anonymous said...

I can't say I'm entirely surprises....DTSS, and especially the south side of the tracks has been getting sketchier and sketchier every day. There needs to be a serious purge before DTSS can truely thrive

Sligo said...

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions until the facts come out. Remember the Brian Betts case? Rather than a random home invasion, it turned out the perps were people from outside Silver Spring that he invited into his house.

Sligo said...

Not to mention the Lululemon murder in Bethesda.

Anonymous said...

Sligo...thats even more troubling. they live here.

Anonymous said...

"DTSS, and especially the south side of the tracks has been getting sketchier and sketchier every day."

That's because the police in this area don't get the broken windows theory so succesfully implemented in NYC and other areas. They allow kids to harrass you asking to buy candy or donate to their imaginary football team. And they let kids loiter and get into trouble all over DTSS. Until the county cracksdown on such "antisocial" behavior (as our European friends call it) the area will indeed look sketchy.

I doubt this has any connection to that though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a personal connection and not random and that comes out shortly. Very sad.

The other thing to keep in mind is that, as tragic as it is, murders simply happen in urban areas. NYC, Boston, DC, Chicago, LA, London, Rome etc. that will never change. Very sad though...

Anonymous said...

Do we know for sure this wasn't a suicide?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, the Veridian and all it's brand highrise neighbors are so sketch. Ha.

This is the first (possible) homicide in 20910 since Betts, right? That was over 2 years ago and was practically outside the beltway. There were 3 murders near downtown Bethesda last year alone. Things happen. Downtown Silver Spring is insanely safe considering the number of people who live here and the number of people who visit. No "purge" needed, thank you. Sad situation (suicide or argument turned bad or whatever happened).

Anonymous said...

*brand new* I meant to say. Condolences to his family and friends.

Anonymous said...

"DTSS, and especially the south side of the tracks has been getting sketchier and sketchier every day. There needs to be a serious purge before DTSS can truely thrive"

Are you kidding me? Crime rates for Downtown Silver Spring are (with the odd exception of larceny) FAR below the average in Maryland and well below the average nationwide.

Go here and take a look at the stats for DTSS. Then, just for kicks, use the "change neighborhood button and search Bethesda and tell me what you see.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/real-estate/neighborhoods/Downtown+Silver+Spring,+MD-crime.html

Anonymous said...

http://www.mymcpnews.com/crime-statistics/

try using MOCO police departments statistics instead of your outdated, inacurate "stats"

Btw, just because Bethesda has more murders doesnt mean they have my crime...murder is not the only crime thats commited, and if you even read the daily police blotter in the Post, you'll see DTSS is going to hell in a handbasket

Anonymous said...

btw, there weren 3 murders in bethesda last year..there was 1

Anonymous said...

try using MOCO police departments statistics instead of your outdated, inacurate "stats"

Hey troll, why don't you show me where on that site they break down the stats to DTSS, which is what we were talking about. The only think I saw were stats for the entire Silver Spring District.

And while you are at it, perhaps tell me why you think the information I provided was "outdated."

Absolutely pathetic that someone would use a tragic crime to keep pushing the "Silver Spring Sucks" narrative. But whatever. If you think it os going to "hell in a hand basket" feel free to leave and never, ever come back. Same goes with this site.

Anonymous said...

A serious purge of what? People who live in luxury apartments? This is THE definition of an isolated incident. Crime reports factually prove that incidents of crime have been falling like a rock for years now in dTSS, specifically, and throughout MoCo, generally (despite massive population growth and a poor economy). Chill with the hyperbole - this isn't the blog post for it.

Woody Brosnan said...

This is what happens when sketchy information is posted on the Internet before any report. How any one can draw a conclusion about the safety of DTSS is beyond me.
Woody Brosnan
vice chairman of Safe Silver Spring

Anonymous said...

My condolences to his family and friends. Hopefully this luxury high rise building will have security cameras recording and capture who was coming in and out that day.

Anonymous said...

"This is what happens when sketchy information is posted on the Internet before any report."

Seriously? Is info about crimes not supposed to be shared until a suspect has been captured? I'm kind of confused as to exactly what you're advocating. The public should know about crimes in their neighborhood when they happen. The fact there are some trolls on this board who use any bad information to trash DTSS doesn't mean that this wasn't newsworthy.

In any event, you'd think that neighbors would have heard the shooting.

Craig said...

Please don't feed the troll. He suffers from a Charlie Bronson Complex. Thanks to his clouded conservative Republican thinking, he believes a "purge" of teenagers--specially black teenagers--from DTSS would make everything all safe for patriotic, law-abiding citizens like himself.

There is no public safety crisis in DTSS. The neighborhood does not represent "Fort Apache" in The Bronx circa 1975. But apparently, this is what the troll sees here.

Anonymous said...

^^

Why does everyone think there is one troll or anyone who thinks differently than them around here? I've never seen a more defensive group of people than DTSS residents on this blog. Stop flipping out and thinking everyone who critiques Silver Spring in any way is Republican, racist, or a troll that loves NOVA or somewhere else. This town iS NOT There and still needs work.

Grow some thicker skin.


That said, this is a horrible tragedy and people should be a little more respectful of his family and friends who might be reading this. I saw the story on Facebook and plenty of people who knew him were very upset and posted comments.

Let's calm down a bit. Yes murders do not happen much in DTSS. Very true, the guy who jumped to that conclusion is wrong. However, the guys immediately going "troll who hates black teenagers" from that ought to calm down too. Not sure how you got that from "this is a sketchy area".

I do think murders and hardcore crimes do not abount in DTSS. Do I think some areas seem sketchy? Sure. But that's just a matter of opinion.

Fmr. Thayer Res. said...

No one on here thinks there can't be a difference of opinion or a serious discussion on crime in the area (or, god forbid, a 10,000th conversation about the number of bars), but at the same time, just because the 1 troll SSS has posts anonymously doesn't mean we all can't tell when it's him who posts.

Who else is so callous to try and twist a single, isolated incident into the need for a "purge" (seriously??? Channel Hitler much?) or rant about how "DTSS is going to hell in a handbasket." I think it was important, in this case, that people made clear such comments were unacceptable. In general, I agree with usual course of just ignoring him. Eventually he'll grow up, move out of his parents' house, and hopefully live in Bethesda or VA.

Anonymous said...

as the "purge" author, let me just say this...

Do you people even live in DTSS? or even in MD? do you not see the abundance of sketchy people? the candy pedlers, the flash mobs (although not technicly DTSS), the gaggle of kids hanging out in the movie theaters, the people outside the homeless shelter, and the crown jewel....the McDonals

Listen, you PC thugs can cry racism and anti-semitism or whatever else is up your arse all you want...but facts are facts. Crime is significantly up in silver spring compared to the surrounding areas. There has been a hestitance of new and more importantly popular business' opening up in DTSS compared to the surrounding areas.

Just because you dont like what you hear doesnt mean it isnt true. So get the sticks out of your bums and try addressing the problem rather than sweeping it under the rug

You are the same type of people who thing Detroit is doing just fine too huh?

Anonymous said...

? Okay, first off, I don't know what homeless shelter you're referring to. I don't know of one in downtown Silver Spring. Are you talking about Shepherd's Table? That's what's called a food kitchen. I'm sure you're an avid volunteer there because you seem so concerned about bettering downtown Silver Spring. Unfortunate for you, people who assistance feeding themselves or their families aren't invisible - I'm so sorry if you're able to see them waiting in front of ST before food is served. That must be so hard on you.

Yes, there are people who hang out in front of the movie theater. Just like there are people who hang out all up and down Ellsworth. That's oh so ominous. Why aren't all those people at home?! Don't they know downtown Silver Spring is "getting sketchier and sketchier every day"?! It's such a shame that we have one of the most vibrant blocks in all of MoCo. Totally seedy.

You're wrong, downtown Silver Spring did have a flash mob, just the other day. http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/06/silver_spring_md_gets_its_own_african_contemporary_dance_flash_mob_video.html

OH THE HUMANITY! People are dancing! PURGE THEM.

Seriously, you have to be 12 years old and have never been outside of Potomac to think downtown Silver Spring is anywhere near unsafe or sketchy. I mean honestly, you've got to move, kid, if you seriously fear everyone around you like that. One of the richest suburbs in the world and you're still afraid of kids hanging out in front of IMAX theaters. Sad.

Anonymous said...

"There has been a hestitance of new and more importantly popular business' opening up in DTSS compared to the surrounding areas."

Who, exactly? And why then does DTSS have vacancy (both residential and office) rates that are absolutely miniscule? And why is United Theraputics expanding their footprint? And why is Clean Currents relocating to here from Rockville?

Anonymous said...

clean current? great!!! we're getting a solar energy company. just like solyndra? we're getting it because no one else in the county wants it.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Troll: I had no idea that people in various places in the county got an up-or-down vote as to whether Clean Currents would be allowed to relocate to their community.

BTW, as governor, your candidate of choice was a supporter of green energy companies, including (gasp) some that went bankrupt: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-11/romney-helped-spark-green-energy-boom-in-massachusetts

Anonymous said...

Note the troll was still unable to name one business that was "hesitant" to move to DTSS because of rising crime.

Terry in Silver Spring said...

"Do you people even live in DTSS? or even in MD? do you not see the abundance of sketchy people? the candy pedlers, the flash mobs (although not technicly DTSS), the gaggle of kids hanging out in the movie theaters, the people outside the homeless shelter, and the crown jewel....the McDonals"

I live in DTSS and have done so for more than a decade. No, I don't see mobs of sketchy people. The kids selling candy are pests. People outside the homeless shelter? Do you mean Shepherd's Table? They feed, clothe, and otherwise help people but do not run a shelter. No, I'm not frightened of the people going there for help. I'm glad they're able to get that help. Kids outside of the movies? Not sketchy, they're kids doing what kids always do. Gather to talk and see and be seen. Occasionally, those gatherings go bad but the great majority of times they're just kids hanging out.

Honestly, anon, you're afraid of a lot of things that aren't dangerous. This is an issue of YOUR life view and not Silver Spring being dangerous.

Anonymous said...

More **SHOCKING** evidence of how sketchy and crime ridden DTSS has become!!! Metro just released its crime stats (http://colesville.patch.com/articles/how-safe-are-east-county-metro-rail-stations) for the first quarter of 2012 and you won't believe the results:

"Among rail stations closest to East Montgomery County, Takoma had the 28th highest number of crimes within the system. Wheaton was ranked 30th, Forest Glen 60th and Glenmont 61st.

No serious crimes were reported at the Silver Spring station this year, according to a spokesperson for WMATA."

Oh. Not a one? Hmmm...Never mind.

Anonymous said...

I personally witnessed a late night flash mob robbery of silver spring by about 50 black kids about 4 months ago at the 7 -eleven next to the McDonalds.

For some reason the media did not report it but I did talk to the officer who reported it. (We had bought our food and were standing outside).

This happened around 1am on a Saturday night.

Am I a troll too?

you guys are seriously assuming everyone is a troll who critiques silver spring.

Just yesterday I saw two 14 year kids beating the crap out of each other right in front of the movie theater. Luckily there were some cops around the corner who after a few minutes came and broke it up.

Is it UNSAFE? No. Is it sketchy? Yeah, a lot of it is. Those things are not the same.

I don't really care either way in terms of my safety, I'm not afraid to hang out in a bad area for example, I know how to handle myself. However, as a homeowner around here I wish this kind of annoying behavoir would stop because it would improve the areas image.

Flame away and call me a troll since thats all the defenders of this area can do.

PS, please explain to me why all the vacancies next to the liquor store on 29 in DTSS and all the ones next to the quiznos arent immediately gobbled up if this place is so high profile for businesses. How about the places on Wayne Avenue? I could go on, but I'm just at troll attacking this perfect paradise.

Anonymous said...

"I could go on, but I'm just at troll attacking this perfect paradise."

I don't know if you are a troll, but I do know you have some serious deficiencies in the logic department.

First, the strawmen: No one said DTSS is a perfect paradise. For you to claim such on a blog where probably half the posts are dealing with things going WRONG in DTSS is absurd. Further, we do not label anyone that criticizes Silver Spring as a troll. Only the ones that resort to histrionics like calling for a "purge" or say "DTSS is going to hell in a hand basket" or "getting sketchier and sketchier every day." These ridiculous statements have zero basis in reality and are said merely to get a rise.

Next your anecdotal fallacy. You point out some of the very few vacancies and extrapolate that to mean businesses must not want to be here, when the fact is that vacancy rates are incredibly low. That is a statistic much more relevant than your cherry-picked examples. Who knows why a particular property is vacant? But I guarantee you will never find an area that has absolutely no vacancies.

Anonymous said...

Right on, 10:09 Anon.

Anonymous said...

I live in DTSS and while there are some pesky types that hang around sometimes, I have never felt unsafe. It's an urban area, not rural Kansas. There's going to be crime. Know how to handle yourself and deal with it. And whoever thinks the south side of the tracks has been getting sketchier every day (which is where I live) is insane. I'm there every single day and I always feel safe. Come out of your bubble and realize that a diversity of people (ages, background, etc.) does not mean it's "sketchy."

Patrick Thornton said...

Since the tracks run north-south, I assume the troll is referring to the west side of the tracks where South Silver Spring is located. But who knows.

The west part of the tracks has less issues than the east side of the tracks in terms of crime, and has a lot of potential for the future of Silver Spring. One of the nicest things about the west side of the tracks is that it's not overrun by teenagers like Ellsworth can be.