Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Silver Spring News 'N Notes

- Masa, the Japanese Hibachi/Sushi restaurant located on the second floor of DTSS is now open for business. The restaurant has taken the unusual step of having a large banner produced to advertise their soft opening to DTSS-goers. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but isn't a "soft" opening by definition one you don't actively promote?

 
I'm putting off trying Masa for the time being, having been burned too many times by poor service and sub-par food when dining at newly-opened restaurants. I'll wait until they've been open a bit longer and have reached a critical mass of reviews on Yelp! and the like. To their credit, they have been receiving generally good reviews on Yelp! thus far. (I'm still on the fence about Society Lounge, which has been open a few weeks now, and whose Yelp! rating is hovering around my 3.5 star minimum.) And for those restaurants whose marking strategy includes leaving positive reviews of themselves in the comments section of this blog, please don't do that. It's really obvious when you do. I'm looking at you, Skew Works.

While its title may be somewhat misleading, a recent post on the Washington Post website provides some additional details on Masa.

- The pop-up toy store that took over Borders' old space when the bookseller went under has finally closed, and work appears to be underway in the interior, though there is no indication who might be moving in. There were some rumors about H&M last September, but I haven't heard any word on that since. I'd be surprised that they'd open a large store here with a brand new one just a few miles down Georgia Avenue in Wheaton Plaza, but who knows.  

UPDATE: It is H&M. Clearly I am not being diligent enough when it comes to monitoring the Downtown Silver Spring Facebook page. H&M will occupy 18,000 square ft. of the Borders space, and is set to open in September. H&M must be following an aggressive expansion plan, as they are also opening up a store over in Chevy Chase.

- After strangely having dueling websites with one site stating the restaurant was moving Bethesda and the other claiming this was a dirty rumor, Marrakesh is indeed gone. According to the liquor license request posted in the window, eventually taking its place will be a restaurant named Lucy's Ethiopian. I'm really surprised that yet another Ethiopian place is on the way, considering there's a new one opening (already open?) down the road at the former Taste of Jerusalem location and another new restaurant at the corner of Fenton and Silver Spring Ave. I don't know how many Ethiopian restaurants one downtown area can possibly support, but I guess we'll find out. Ironically, Marrakesh originally took over a portion of another Ethiopian restaurant - Langano - which still operates next door, though with a reduced footprint.

 - The massive CF that is the Transit Center's construction continues. Now the county and Foulger-Pratt are bringing in another engineer to assess the state of the negligently-poured concrete to determine if it is either too little or too much, and if there is any threat of hundreds of tons of concrete and buses falling on your head while you await the arrival of the Z2. It's even possible that the entire thing might even have to be torn down as an "apocalyptic solution".

- Joe Gyau, a 19-year old soccer player from Silver Spring, has signed a three-year contract with Hoffenheim in the German Bundesliga (their main soccer division), which is pretty impressive. More on Gyau here from the New York Times.

- Finally, this may be ancient in Internet time by now, but in case you haven't yet seen it, here's the police video of Batman being pulled over on Route 29 a few weeks back. Unsurprisingly, this story ended up going viral and being picked up nationally.





119 comments:

aims said...

Downtown Silver Spring posted on their facebook page that H&M was coming to DTSS.

Anonymous said...

Why do you think yelp is a reliable source. Some posts are real, some are not... How do you tell?

Sligo said...

Of course Yelp isn't completely reliable. that's why I wait until there are a large number of reviews (and from people who have reviewed a lot of other restaurants) before I trust it. Of course, they could still be reviews farmed out to China or India...

Isayaah Parker said...

Wait, the entire Borders space is going to be H&M??? Seems a bit over the top especially since there's one right up the street. Regardless, I'm sure they'll do well. American Apparel always did seem strange being the only major clothing chain in that section of Fenton.

S Springer said...

As an avid yelper, I can say that it is easy to weed out the spam reviews from the real reviews from real people. That said, I am always excited for new businesses to succeed in DTSS. Let's hope Masa is in that group. Not sure Society "Lounge" will be that lucky unless they can maintain their identity. (Are they a lounge/club or an upscale restaurant?)

Anonymous said...

"American Apparel always did seem strange being the only major clothing chain in that section of Fenton."

Huh? You mean not including New York & Co., Ann Taylor, Burlington, Marshalls, Men's Warehouse, etc.?

dan reed! said...

Silver Spring does have a pretty substantial Ethiopian community, so it's no surprise that there are a lot of Ethiopian restaurants here. And a large amount of the DC area's Ethiopian restaurants are in Silver Spring, so it's pulling in people from across the region, not just nearby.

Anonymous said...

Actively rooting against the new (2) ethiopian places to succeed. I want good businesses to succeed but enough is enough.

It's getting beyond ridiculous.

I do hope the H&M does well. DTSS needs more places like that

Anonymous said...

Oh, and to answer your question, H&M is taking 18,000 sqft. 7,000 sqft will be left (presumably the old coffee shop area/separate entrance?). I assume something like a coffee shop or maybe a nice grab-and-go lunch shop (a la Chop't) will fill the space.

Anonymous said...

I know burlington and marshalls are technically "major" retail chains but the disgusting versions we have around here certainly don't count for anything other than an eyesore.

Mens Wearehouse is the only place to get mens clothing around here.

Anonymous said...

"Actively rooting against the new (2) ethiopian places to succeed."

That doesn't make much sense - if the new places are good then they will and should have staying power. If they're crap or the street can't support that many ethiopian restaurants then one or more of them will fold. Allow nature to take it's course. Who the heck roots for their community's small businesses to fail? Messed up.

Anonymous said...

I would disagree with the above.

Places like Marshalls, City Place, Burlington Coat Factory, the DTSS Red Lobster, Austin Grill, Macaroni grill, the chinese place on georgia avenue are terrible crap and yet they continue to stay in business.

Anonymous said...

Never been to Marshalls
Been years since I've been in City Place
Ditto Burlington Coat Factory
Been once and enjoyed DTSS Red Lobster
Like it, but admit it ain't great Austin Grill
Been years, but to each his own Macaroni grill
Was Ok chinese place on georgia avenue

People are way too judgmental on what is acceptable. H&M I could give a flying about. Still hope it does well. If a place succeeds I'm happy for it. There a more than enoguh places that I like and frequent in this area.

Anonymous said...

"terrible crap and yet they continue to stay in business"

That's just your opinion. I don't go to any of the places you list (so I can't comment on their quality, like you can), but those Ellsworth businesses are always packed whenever I walk by. Plenty of people obviously disagree with you, hence why they're able to pay the very high Peterson Co. rents. Hopefully Masa and H&M are successful draws as well.

Anonymous said...

Some of the Yelp reviews for Masa, especially the first few, are suspiciously vague and uninformative.

I love Ethiopian food, so I don't mind a couple more options. There's still available retail space in the downtown area, so it's not as though the new Ethiopian places are preventing other businesses from opening. We should be rooting for them to succeed.

Anonymous said...

This is another epic DTSS failure. They could have put So much better in the old Border’s spot. Example…best buy (even though they are closing many throughout the US), or what about a decent restaurant…like cheesecake factory, which btw would be a FAR better choice that 2 more crappy Ethiopian places.

why do these Ethiopian places keep closing. Simple. They don’t know how to run a business and no one goes to them.

DTSS needs to stop pretending to be something different and go with models that work. I.e Bethesda, chevy chase, Roslyn. Why do these places thrive? Because they have places people actually want to go too. Not more of the same garbage.

-steve

Sligo said...

How exactly is getting a H&M an epic failure? A Best Buy (also down the street in Wheaton) would probably be closed within a few years. Besides, you can buy pretty much everything they sell online for less.

Anonymous said...

"why do these Ethiopian places keep closing. Simple. They don’t know how to run a business and no one goes to them."

Dumb, even for a blatantly racist comment. Singular's post was about how a new ethiopian place is OPENING, not closing. Not to mention many of the very successful new and old small businesses in town are owned by ethiopians (I'm not just talking about restaurants that serve ethiopian food).

Anonymous said...

How is the FACT…that Ethiopian places keep closing and are poorly run equate to racism? This is what I hate about you liberal hipster morons. You think any contradiction to you “opinion” is automatically racist. FACT is….there have been multiple Ethiopian restaurant closings in the past 2 years. Why? Because of failed business models and..uhh no customers.

Btw, just because “wheaton has it” doesn’t mean DTSS cant have it (ref: best buy) by that logic the only store that should be open in all of silver spring should be a fishing store because there doesn’t seem to be a fishing store in any other town for 20 miles. Ever go on a companies website and notice how that have multiple locations in a small area? (ref starbucks and jos. A bank) because people like those stores and putting them somewhere attracts other business……its amazing how some of you are still alive with your poor mental abilities.

-steve

Sligo said...

If a company (Best Buy) is facing declining sales and closing locations, why would they go put in a brand new store just a few miles from an existing one?

jag said...

"How is the FACT…that Ethiopian places keep closing and are poorly run equate to racism?"

I'm sorry, could you please list all the Ethiopian places that have closed in the last 5 years. I believe you don't know what the hell you're talking about, racist guy. You and Marion Barry should hang out and talk shit about Asians while you're at it.

P-Mac said...

if we're going to spew vitrol, can't we all join forces and get the McDonald's on Colesville closed? that seems to be the Wayne Fontes of restaurants. who is still going there?

Anonymous said...

P-Mac

actually...good idea. they need to raze that McDonalds. besides the fact McDonalds is terrible...that place breeds crime. Ever notice the police officer that is there all the time? you dont place a police officer in a location unless you suspect a crime might take place.

btw, just because you dont like the facts...doesnt mean they are racist.
-steve

Patrick Thornton said...

The anon who wrote this "This is another epic DTSS failure" and then suggested a Best Buy of all stores would be a good idea is probably a teenage boy who isn't thinking about what other demographics would want. I used to hang out there a lot when I was a teen, but in no way would I suggest an urban area actively try to court one in 2012. Beyond teenage boys, most people don't like stepping into Best Buys anymore.

I don't really shop at H&M but it's a much better fit than a small Best Buy. Best Buy is getting hammered and will probably be out of business in 5-10 years: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CEMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Flarrydownes%2F2012%2F01%2F02%2Fwhy-best-buy-is-going-out-of-business-gradually%2F&ei=-CGYT5GLD4mm9AT71Lj5BQ&usg=AFQjCNFzq1RgDZt9gzOsGEC6ycgIWVd5ZQ&sig2=j1MMzyw9XZxvlbzjYRR2vA

Yes, Best Buy is closing a lot of their bigger stores and looking to open more smaller, urban locations, but they are really struggling to make that transition. It's hard to compete with Amazon, iTunes Store, even Target. While some people like to hang out at Best Buy's, not enough people like to purchase products there. I don't think DTSS would be well served by another hang out spot where people don't buy a lot.

A popular clothing store is a great addition to DTSS. In fact, the area could use more. If H&M finds success, it might just be the spark that helps to finally get City Place redeveloped.

I'm curious to see what goes up in the remaining part of the old Borders. That area could use another coffee shop. It takes forever to get a coffee on weekends at the Starbucks down there when I want something to walk around with (Panera is .5 of a coffee place). South Silver Spring also lacks coffee shops. Is Silver Spring the only urban area that lacks enough coffee shops?

Patrick Thornton said...

Not only is there a Best Buy in Wheaton but there is also one in Columbia Heights, which is a short car or bus ride away.

I haven't been to a Best Buy in years. I usually end up going to one if my wife takes me to the mall, and I get bored. Now that we live in the urban part of Silver Spring, we almost never go to malls.

A lot of suburban malls aren't doing well, which bodes well for DTSS's future. Now if we could just redevelop City Place into something better.

Anonymous said...

christ people...best buy was a suggestion. instead of bitching try offering up suggestions. that was my suggestion.

or how about this...im sure all you hipster's would love it. what about an apple store? oooohhh ahhhh..apple

-steve

Anonymous said...

Indeed, Best Buy is a horrific idea. Large H&Ms have mens sections, right? I've never been in one of their stores, but I'll gladly check it out at some point if that's the case.

The small, 7,000sqft space is intriguing. Bringing in FroZenYo was a great idea. I'd like to see another unique offering like that and continue encouraging people away from Ellsworth a block or two for nice, locally owned coffee shops, like Kefa and Zeds. Though those are both Ethiopian-owned and I hear "those people" don't know how to run businesses. Steve - go screw yourself, btw.

Patrick Thornton said...

H&M is a good choice, and it does offer men's clothing and sometimes infants and children. All of their stores tend to be bigger and have a wider selection than the clothing stores currently in DTSS.

I used to go to the smaller, locally owned coffee shops when I lived in Fenton Village, but now that I live in South Silver Spring, I usually don't go to Fenton Village and the places there unless I'm going to a specific restaurant (Cafe Fenton is good and worth the trek). If I'm coming down to DTSS for the farmer's market, for instance, I want coffee that is nearby, and unfortunately, crossing Wayne (or worse walking down it) is not the best experience. It would be nice if there was a way to cross over the train tracks without needing to walk all the way to Colesville or all the way down to Georgia, because then us South Silver Springers would make it to Fenton Village more often.

It would be nice if one of the small coffee shops moved to the remaining Border's space or one like those moved in. Ethiopian coffee is very good.

Once the library gets built and Fenton Village begins to get more housing, the restaurants and cafes of Fenton Village will do a lot better. DTSS, South Silver Spring and the rest of the area could use a strong Fenton Village.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of FV, "Taste the World in Fenton Village" is coming up next weekend (May 6th). 24 FV restaurants are participating. The inaugural year last year went great, I thought. For anyone who doesn't know, assuming it's the same as last year, you walk around FV and each restaurant will have a tasting for $2-$5. My favorite was Pacci's and their personal pizzas for $5. http://tastetheworldfentonvillage.org/restaurants

Anonymous said...

Let's just put Steve in charge. That way if somebody comes in a tries to open another Ethiopian restaurant he will deny them and tell them we've already got enough of them - maybe you'd like to open a Cheese Cake Factory. And when H&M comes in trying to open a store, Steve will hold steady and tell them we're holding out for Best Buy.

With Steve in charge Utopia will be a coming.

Anonymous said...

anonnymous 1157.....i like your idea. finally some intelligent thought around here.

Easley Does It said...

I have nothing to add other than to say how much I enjoyed the Wayne Fontes reference!

Anonymous said...

@ P Mac - "the Wayne Fontes of restaurants", very funny reference. Props.

Steve, you are very funny little troll. Best Buy and Cheesecake Factory. Hee hee!

Anonymous said...

I couldn't be more delighted that H and M is coming to Silver Spring.

However, don't be so quick to diss Marshall's -- it may not look pretty, but I have bought some incredible stuff there for cheap. Their housewares are great; bought a gorgeous lamp there for $25, saw it at Macy's a month earlier for $145.

As for the Society Lounge -- I had a so-so meal there. Steak was good, cocktails were lousy, waitress was woefully inexperienced and did dumb stuff like pouring two full glasses out of a bottle we'd ordered without first offering a taste.

There are some weird pairing on the menu, too -- not sure what Caribbean roles have cheddar cheese in them. Plantain chips with crab/artichoke dip. Etc.

Julie L. said...

I'm pretty excited for H&M. I feel like more retail will bring more people into the neighborhood, and that, in turn, will support more local restaurants. That, and because I live and work in the 20910, and sometimes feel like I never leave, I am excited to add something other than Loft and NY and Co to my wardrobe.

Anonymous said...

I feel like 20910 is already unrivaled when it comes to food offerings (not to say Masa or a new Ethiopian place aren't welcome) so DTSS beginning to add more high-quality retail (see H&M and City Sports) is really key. If that momentum can carry into City Place and we can get a few more high-quality bars on the side, I think downtown Silver Spring will be second to none.

Anonymous said...

@ P Mac - "the Wayne Fontes of restaurants"

As a Detroiter and long suffering Lions fan, I salute you! Wonderful!

Anonymous said...

"I think downtown Silver Spring will be second to none"

Really? Seriously? Come on...joking right? I live here, it's fine...but second to none???

Really???

Isayaah Parker said...

"American Apparel always did seem strange being the only major clothing chain in that section of Fenton."

Huh? You mean not including New York & Co., Ann Taylor, Burlington, Marshalls, Men's Warehouse, etc.?

Umm, hello, I said, "IN THAT SECTION OF FENTON" ny and co is over on georgia ave and so is ann taylor. Mens warehouse isn't really equal and burlington and marshalls are inside city place. im talking about retailers that are closeby in terms of WALKING distance from american...like Rosta's.

Honestly, I am SHOCKED that a Cheesecake Factory hasn't opened in downtown silver spring. Seems like a no-brainer.

Anonymous said...

2nd to none? Wow.

And did someone actually try to defend Austin Grill and Red Lobster?

Now I've heard of everything. This area has a LONG way to go and opening 10 of the same kind of restaurants in a row (Ethiopian or Thai) is embarrassing and silly

Anonymous said...

Isayaah, you said next to H&M "IN THAT SECTION OF FENTON" - all of those other stores (Loft, NY & Co. etc.) are all closer to H&M than AA. That's what doesn't make sense about your comment, silly.

"I think downtown Silver Spring will be second to none."

Obviously the person is speaking regionally; no one would contend DTSS is giving Paris a run for its money. I'd agree that DTSS is only a couple pieces away from being a "very nice" DC area neighborhood to being one of "the best" neighborhoods in the region.

Anonymous said...

"I think downtown Silver Spring will be second to none."

"Obviously the person is speaking regionally"

Duh!!!! Give people a little more credit.

Again...really??? you're joking right?? Again, I live here too and it's a fine place to live but to claim that DTSS will be the best area regionally is just plain silly.

aims said...

can DTSS get a dunkin donuts please?

Anonymous said...

Why do people get so angry? Relax, calm down. A new store is opening up in a space that has had seasonal stores in it since Borders closed...aka this is good news. I don't get why people on this blog have to go from reading the news to outraged in 5 seconds. Count to 10 or something. Just because it's an H&M opening and not the store that you have been privately pining for doesn't mean the sky has fallen. Progress is slow, but picking up in DT Silver Spring. I welcome the latest news.

Craig said...

Actually, I think a Forever 21 store at the Old Borders location would have been better. You draw a huge number of teens, college-aged and young professional 20-somethings to the store location. In other words, young people who will spend gobs of money on stuff. Plus, the Forever 21 has trendier fashion styles than H&M.

H&M is OK...I guess.

My wishlist for DTSS:

1. An independent coffee shop with serious floor space for sofas and tables. Fair-trade coffee beans. Wi-Fi not included...you gotta pay for it.

2. Big-ass skate park for the kiddies. If you want to see the kiddies disappear in front of the Civic Center, build a skate park some place.

3. A nightclub lounge. I am not talking about a restaurant that converts itself to a club hangout with $15 drinks after 10:00 p.m. I don't know the Montgomery County liquor regulations well. I am not sure if there are liquor licenses for such operations.

But it would be great to have a joint where you can dance to live DJ music, big-ass bars that stretch at least 50 feet in length and hot women in skin-tight attire.

A nightclub should be exempt from having to serve food dishes.

4. A Korean BBQ restaurant. I know Silver Spring does not have a big ethnic Korean community but I have enjoyed some of the best food at Korean BBQ joints. I can taste the kimchee now.

Anonymous said...

I agree with everything above except for the skate park. Ugh, will just makes things trashier around here.

I also love ethiopian but vote that we need more variety in our food choices and prime real estate should have many different cultures and cuisines represented.

And also say that DTSS is nowhere near the best of anything even in this area. Some seriously silly people on this blog.

Anonymous said...

To craig:

Does Forever 21 offer any mens clothing?

Patrick Thornton said...

@Craig,

Montgomery County's liquor laws wouldn't allow a nightclub that didn't serve food. I don't think the location makes any sense for a night club either. Nightclubs are usually clustered together in "adult" areas.

Usually the land isn't that expensive. It's hard to operate a business that doesn't operate during breakfast, lunch or dinner and only gets customers 2-3 days a week. DTSS would be a poor location for one.

The difference between Forever 21 and H&M isn't much in my eyes. From my prospective H&M sells trendier, more European-style clothes. H&M at least has clothes for adults.

But I wouldn't shop that much at either one. Still any recognizable clothing store is a huge upgrade over that makeshift toy store.

A skate park should be a few blocks or so away from the main part of DTSS. A skatepark would almost assuredly need to be county subsidized. Prime real estate should be given to private developers. Most kids don't even skateboard, let alone people. The main areas of DTSS should be skatepark free.

Now if a private developer thinks there is enough demand to build a private skatepark that charges admission, I'm all for that.

I would love to have a place like the old Mayorga on Georgia in the DTSS area. It was a great place to relax. I'm not sure, however, that places like that can make enough money these days.

Too many people buy a $1-2 drink and loiter for hours. I think not offering free wifi could help a lot though. DTSS certainly has the traffic to support more coffee shops. I'm hoping that the remaining part of the old Borders is made into a coffee shop.

Anonymous said...

Do you people not know that there's a skate park already like two blocks off Ellsworth, or are we talking about somehow fitting a new, massive one somewhere near DTSS? Obviously, and thankfully, there's no way that'd ever happen. Would be a complete waste of land.

Anonymous said...

Oh, except maybe in the old subteranian theater - that'd be too kool for skool to put a skate park down there (not that i have any real idea on the logistical specifications of a skate park). Would be nice to get them out of Woodside Park and put subteranian, though. And that's a complete dead corner currently, so go ahead and give it to the kids.

Nick said...

The last thing DTSS needs is a skate park.

I don't mind new Ethiopinan restaurants, as you never know when one will open up that puts the others to shame, but let's hope we get different cuisines, too. A new Italian place would be nice.

Anonymous said...

Kids still "skate"? Really? What is this 1992?

Craig said...

"Does Forever 21 offer any mens clothing?"

I don't think so. But I would also say that at least 80 percent of clientele at H&M are female shoppers. In the end, not a big difference.

Female-oriented shops generates a more quieter, safer environment for the Ellsworth/Fenton area. I rather feel more comfortable with groups of 21 year old women walking down Ellsworth than a pack of 21 year old dudes. And no, I am not talking about eye candy for heterosexual guys like me.

The last thing you need is a restaurant, entertainment or retail establishment that attracts the 16-25 year old male demographic. The Majestic 20, Galaxy Billiards and McGinty's offers enough for the Dude Demographic.

Nick said...

As for Ethiopian restaurants not knowing how to run a restaurant business, the sad fact is that there are plenty of restaurants in DTSS that really don't know how to properly run a restaurant. Among the more popular lapses are waiting to bring appetizers out with entrees at the same time, waiting until the entree is served to bring the first drink a person orders, bringing one course to the table while the diners are obviously still in the middle of the earlier course, and neglecting to ask if people want another drink.

These are not small details. Aside from the quality of the food, the quality of service comes next (or first, depending on your view).

My own strategy at certain restaurants is to order the drink and appetizers first, and then wait until they bring them to order my other courses.

I also do not blame the servers. If they are otherwise courteous -- and they almost always are -- they will get a decent tip. The problems I described are management's fault.

Anonymous said...

...you're saying H&M is too dude-oriented? And you're saying men who shop at H&M make for an unsafe environment? Is this a joke I'm not understanding?

Anonymous said...

Nick:

Absolutely correct. DTSS is not bad but wow the dining destination it's played up as being is totally overrated.

A lot of these businesses dont even have minimum acceptable services.

See: Crapholes like Austin Grill or Piratz tavern.

Anonymous said...

Craig:

I see your point but it's only a point given the qaulity of thuggish low class dudes that hang around Elsworth. (Probably due to Galaxy etc).

In another nicer area I don't think your dude issue would be a problem.

Anonymous said...

"kids still skate?"

I see kids on or with skate boards almost on a daily basis...and I live walking distance to DTSS. I'm not an avid supporter of "skaters" but to claim that a skate park makes an area trashier is naive. If that's the case, then the authorities should also take down all the basketball hoops at the parks due to all the kids leaving trash behind...Silver Spring Intermediate Park comes to mind. Those "damn kids"!!!!

Anonymous said...

Of course Austin Grill is a craphole. No one from Silver Spring thinks that place/most any of the chains on Ellsworth makes the top 100 restaurants in DTSS.

Speaking of Ellsworth, re: H&M:
"Thanks to the center’s location and flourishing foot traffic, the owners had little problem attracting tenants, Taylor Chess, senior vice president, retail leasing for Peterson, tells GlobeSt.com.

In fact, he says, H&M was not the best offer it received in financial terms, but it was the best fit in terms of tenant mix. “We were holding out for what we felt would be the most dramatic and dynamic retailer,” he says. The difference between the highest bid and H&M’s guaranteed rate, on a square-foot basis, is about 20%, he says.

Chess acknowledges the new lease, especially coming so quickly after the Borders departure, is still an exception in the greater DC area. “We have other mid-sized boxes in Gainesville and Fairfax, VA, that we have had trouble leasing,” he says."

Sligo said...

Re: H&M

H&M sells plenty of men's clothes plus at some locations (hopefully this one) they sell kids clothing. Their kids line is pretty stylish and cheap compared to places like Gap Kids/Baby Gap. If nothing else, I am sure I would end up buying my son stuff there.

My wife would love Forever 21, but it wouldn't do me or my son any good.

Anonymous said...

Given the amount of ugly people around here I doubt anyone needs to worry about "eye candy"

Anonymous said...

I've heard there is a new skate park opening in Takoma Park behind the town hall. I have no idea the size. Perhaps it will be big enough to appease those skate boarders who have been complaining for a sizable skate park.

Anonymous said...

Re: Given the amount of ugly people around here I doubt anyone needs to worry about "eye candy"

I live here and I don't put myself in the"ugly" category and I would love to see some eye candy.

Anonymous said...

I would venture to say most ugly people don't consider themselves ugly... I do occasionaly see an attractive woman (as in one) in DTSS....they never travel in pairs here...

Anonymous said...

@12:28 anon,

I would also venture to say most people don't consider themselves vapid jackasses.

Perhaps you could confirm my suspicion?

Sarah said...

Regarding the transit center- can someone tell me what the path will be for pedestrians coming from south of the station down Bonifant? Please don't tell me that we will still be routed two blocks out of our way because there's no way to walk through the transit center. I don't have high hopes. I love walking, just not inefficiently.

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

You should be able to go through the station - http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/content/DGS/DBDC/RegionalProjectPages/SilverSpringProjects/Images/SSTC_Bottom_Level_Colesville_Entrance.JPG

Anonymous said...

That map identifies Bonifant Ave. Isn't it Bonifant Street? And the county made/posted that map? Sheesh.

Alex said...

@Steve - You keep using this word "hipster"...I do not think it means what you think it means. Could you please tell me how you define it? Do you just toss it out there when someone disagrees with you because maybe you heard the term somewhere and thought you'd try using it?

H&M is a good business in that location, IMO. Best Buy? Nah, the whole chain's on wobbly legs right now. They have no intentions of expanding.

Oh man...a Korean BBQ place would be nice. Good call on that one.

Anonymous said...

"I would also venture to say most people don't consider themselves vapid jackasses."

vap·id   /ˈvæpɪd/ adjective
1. lacking or having lost life, sharpness, or flavor; insipid; flat: vapid tea.
2. without liveliness or spirit; dull or tedious: a vapid party; vapid conversation.

Anonymous said...

I was in DSW earlier and told my friend that H&M was opening next door. Every single cashier and half of the people on line cheered when they heard the news. I think it's going to be a huge success. Old Navy would be nice too. And I third the Korean BBQ idea. Or maybe Mongolian BBQ can open up a spot.

Anonymous said...

You guys do know about Woo Mi Garden in Wheaton, right? Not that I would mind having our own Korean BBQ, but 10 mins away isn't bad either.

Anonymous said...

"vap·id   /ˈvæpɪd/ adjective"

Ummm, yup. I was going with the "dull, tedious" angle. But feel free to choose whichever of those you feel describes you best. I am sure "insipid" fits the bill as well.

Clancy said...

Anon @Friday, April 27, 2012 2:20:00 PM, Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr vapid, listen, u being ugly isn't so bad...look at the bright side, at least you possess a spectacular vocabulary. Maybe Ur brain compensates for Ur face.

Anonymous said...

Larger Forever 21s do sell men's clothing--I think the line is called "Forever Men" or something.

RoseAG said...

Did you read the article in the Atlantic from the frugal economist? http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/05/six-rules-for-dining-out/8929/

He notes that areas with lots of resturants of the same ethnic type have better food of that culture. So lots of Ethopian resturants will create an atmosphere where good Ethopian resturants will flourish.

High quality non-chain resturants are what everybody says they want in Silver Spring. If Ethopian provides lift-off then so be it.

An amazingly high proportion of resturants fail, it's totally wrong to attribute failure to anything but the poor odds for a resturant suceeding.

Anonymous said...

Are people saying it's vapid to point out that DTSS is one of the ugliest Downtowns anyone has ever seen?

Hell Wheaton may have more attractive people although I'm not sure I want to take it that far.

The truth is uncomfortable but never vapid.

Anonymous said...

Not "people.". Me. And yes, it is vapid, trite, asinine, childish, churlish and any number of words you will have to look up.

Anonymous said...

The trolls have taken over this blog. Arguing over whether SS has the ugliest people? Really? This is what you muppets are talking about? Go away silly little Muppet.

Anonymous said...

You mean troll, not trolls. It's just one sad, pathetic, weirdo who has commented about how ugly everyone is and how everything other than Bethesda and NoVa is a "FAIL" for literally YEARS now. The kid is some psychotic loner or something. Try to ignore it - he disappears for a few entries if you do, presumably to troll other blogs to feed his need for attention. Apparently real life interactions aren't very abundant in his life and this is what he resorts to when sitting at home all alone.

Anonymous said...

It's pretty hilarious how averse to reality the people here are.

"Not "people.". Me. And yes, it is vapid, trite, asinine, childish, churlish and any number of words you will have to look up.
"

Hi pretentious guy. Nice to meet you! And seriously? Oh no! It's churlish!

Stop being such a wimp. Reality is harsh and ugly. Stop hiding from it.

Anonymous said...

i dont know what the above anon is commenting about or who but not having been to nova much but having frequented other parts of maryland the anons that talk about how ugly silver spring is are probably closer to reality than he is

rude but i havent seen any hot girls around here

Sligo said...

Maybe everyone complaining should move to LA and hang out at The Grove instead of DTSS. The women there would probably meet your expectations.

Anonymous said...

"Reality is harsh and ugly. Stop hiding from it."

I would point out that, of the many accurate terms I used to describe your arguments, not one of them was indicative of my thoughts toward the veracity or falsity of your argument, thus you are in no position to determine whether or not I am hiding from your "reality" but I have the feeling that this, along with whether or not you should put your socks on first or your shoes, would fly right over your head.

Anonymous said...

pa·thet·ic/pəˈTHetik/

Adjective:

1.Trying to sound intelligent or deep on a local blog.
Arousing pity, esp. through vulnerability or sadness.
2.Miserably inadequate.

Synonyms:
touching - piteous - moving - pitiful - pitiable

Anonymous said...

"1.Trying to sound intelligent or deep on a local blog."

Certainly something you will never be accused of. Kudos.

Anonymous said...

Again, posturing on a blog. Sad pathetic loser.

Probably one of the aforementioned ugly people. Someone is butthurt.

Anonymous said...

"Again, posturing on a blog."

I guess we can add "irony" (along with "vocabulary" and "a life") to the growing list of things that escape you.

Anonymous said...

lol

Sligo said...

As soon as I get some time, I'm going to start deleting the troll comments & responses, so everyone save yourselves some time and cut it out now.

Anonymous said...

so many muppets

Any word on the restaurant that is supposed to go into the 1200 E-W Hwy apartment building? It's near where I live and there is no sign of work going on and the space still has a "for lease" sign up. I remember it being mentioned on one of the SS blogs.

Anonymous said...

Any word on the restaurant that is supposed to go into the 1200 E-W Hwy apartment building? It's near where I live and there is no sign of work going on and the space still has a "for lease" sign up. I remember it being mentioned on one of the SS blogs.

From the South Silver Spring Neighborhood Association Blog:

Scion Restaurant has secured a lease at 1200 East West Highway, allowing the restaurateurs to expand beyond their Dupont Cirlce kitchen and into a 3,000 square foot establishment in South Silver Spring. The restaurant is expected to open in the autumn after an extensive build-out and will serve contemporary and seasonal American cuisine. A noodle and dumpling bar is also in the works for the space, highlighting the heritage of the co-owners/sisters Joanne and Julie Liu.

Anonymous said...

Sligo, I have a question: what qualifies as a troll comment on here?

Are there rules or guidelines that are put up for user comments?

Seems to me anything other than pro Silver Spring comments don't fly around here? Is it that or just the non-constructive criticism that gets to you?

Sligo said...

Troll comment: "Everyone in Silver Spring is ugly", etc. Particularly when it is repeated over and over.

Anonymous said...

Makes sense.

But if someone said "Downtown Silver Spring is generally a place where very unattractive people tend to gather, that's not everyone but it seems to be a trend. Why is that?"

Is that a troll comment too? I'm just wondering what the guidelines are here.

Anonymous said...

Does the blog post have anything to do with attractiveness or obesity or whatever else the troll always types about? I'd imagine that's the answer. On subject v. out of the blue batsh*t crazy comment.

Anonymous said...

I think personal attacks count too like the ones from our dear friend Steve.

Anonymous said...

Troll comments are like Justice Stewart's definition of obscenity: you know it when you see it.

Happy scrubbing, Sligo.

Anonymous said...

If you scroll above it seems the ugly comment initially started in response to a poster talking about wanting a Forever 21 and then adding "And no, I am not talking about eye candy for heterosexual guys like me." from Craig.

So it was on topic and mean. Then it was responded to by some people agreeing and one guy going:


"I would also venture to say most people don't consider themselves vapid jackasses.

Perhaps you could confirm my suspicion?"

So who started the personal attacks first? Doesn't seem to be the way the posters above are making it out to be.

I've seen a lot of blogs and this blog and the kinds of things on here barely qualify as trolling. Just harsh.

Anonymous said...

I follow a lot of blogs too and honestly can say I've never seen someone repeat the same couple things over and over again month after month after month like this troll does. It's one of the oddest psychological issues I've ever seen. My guess is s/he has serious self esteem issues and therefore enjoys calling everyone around him/her fat, ugly, etc. Whatever it is, I sure hope the person is receiving treatment.

Anonymous said...

I haven't noticed it. I have noticed you talk about him a lot.

I notice the guy posting it but given posting styles how can you be sure it's one person?

Anonymous said...

A bit of relevant news. Looks like there will be a new food truck permanently based at the Georgia/Colesville gas station: Uncle Steve's BBQ. I chatted with the owners for a few minutes and grabbed a menu. Sounds like they plan on sitting at that location permanently, like the Rolls on Rolls people did before moving to greener pastures.

The menu are your BBQ standards: pulled pork/chicken/brisket, ribs and roasted chicken (by the 1/4, 1/2 or whole). I guess they also plan on serving breakfast, though it seems limited and kind of odd.

Anyway, really like the idea of a BBQ truck nearby, but I have my doubts as to whether DTSS can sustain one that plans on making it a permanent location. Seems we have gone through this before...first the African place with the merguez, then Rolls on Rolls We all remember the food trucks that were making DTSS a regular stop (Suburbbros, TOPS, Corned Beef King and a few others I forget) that seemed to have dried up.

Maybe BBQ will be a bigger draw. There is that Curley Q's truck that comes around once a week, that seems to always sell out. But again, that is once a week. I don't know if 5 days in one spot is the best business model for a food truck. Rather see them twice a week and actually stick around for a while.

Anonymous said...

Just when everyone on this blog was about to write Steve off...he comes out with his very own BBQ truck...well done Steve.

Anonymous said...

Update on transit center: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/silver-spring-transit-center-cost-rises-again-by-about-11-million/2012/04/30/gIQAMzpesT_story.html

Cliff's notes:
-- August completion date assuming that the concrete thickness is a non-issue.
-- Cost has now ballooned to $112 million.

Anonymous said...

I'm cautiously optimistic about the transit center...or the entire Purple Line will be built before the TC is completed. Probably 50/50.

Easley Does It said...

It's hard to look at the state of the transit center site now and imagine that it could be finished by August, but I sure hope that's so.

Anonymous said...

Really? The structure looks 99% finished to me (appears they're just polishing the concrete and putting up a couple missing pieces of glass). I believe there's a 60 day inspection period and I imagine that 60 days is when they'll being wrap up the concrete pouring/tree plantings/brick laying all around the structure (I'm assuming those things don't need 60 days to inspect). Of course it is entirely possible this will end up in court then being completely torn down and rebuilt and open in 2025.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and the first floor of the building at Wayne/Georgia appears to be in the process of being gutted. Presumably the La Madeline bistro prototype is on track!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone tried the waffle food truck yet? Cole's Palete is the name I think. $15 seems a bit much for a crab cake on a waffle, but it may be amazing. Who knows.

Vagrarian said...

I live under a bridge!

Seriously...I tried Cole's Palette for their chicken waffle and was unimpressed. It was OK but overpriced.

Corned Beef King has been coming back to DTSS on and off. Pino's Auto Grill, Curley's Q, Thatsalata, and Cupcake Blvd all come buy regularly. Red Hook Lobster Pound comes by about once a month. Curley's Q is great; Pino's is pretty good. Cupcake Blvd's stuff is outstanding.

Anonymous said...

Hey Vagrarian...with SoCo Eats gone there's an opening for a good SS food blogger....

Anonymous said...

And speaking of food - Taste of Fenton is on Sunday. Weather should be perfect!

Anonymous said...

They're havikng a fine arts festival this weekend too in case you get too full at the Taste of Fenton:

http://www.paragonartevents.com/maryland/

Anonymous said...

It's a fact. The food trucks in Silver Spring are way uglier than the ones in Bethesda and Clarendon. I mean, have you seen that pupusa truck? Painted in white before Memorial Day?

Anonymous said...

lol, nice one.

And thanks for the fine arts fest info - hadn't heard about it.

Vagrarian said...

Oh lordy, do another blog? Yipes. I already do one...then again, I'm such an accomplished glutton that a food blog could be feasible...

Only problem is that I'm likely moving slightly north (to Baltimore) in early 2013, so it'll be another short-lived blog.

Molly said...

Can I just take a moment amidst all the bickering and whining to say how much I looove my 'hood? Taste of Fenton Village, major retailers mixed with mom and pop shops, fine arts festivals, diversity of age, race, income... and of course, a great local blog to keep me posted. I have lived in Silver Spring for almost four years since graduating college and I love it.

Mr. Wang said...

H&M sucks why the hell didn't Cheesecake Factory open there? H&M is crap !!! I hear crapping!!