Thursday, December 07, 2006

Silver Spring News 'N Notes

- I recently went to see Babel at the AFI, thinking that perhaps a showing of a serious "adult" movie at this theater would be free of the usual talk-out-loud-the-entire-movie crowd. Wrong. Instead, I might as well have been at the Majestic, as the couple next to me was carrying on with a running discussion (at a normal conversational volume level - there was no attempt to be quiet) the entire time. When they weren't talking to each other, the girl was making/receiving calls on her mobile phone. I guess that no movie theater in Silver Spring is immune from this crap.

- In order to protect law-abiding pedestrians, perhaps Silver Spring should experiment with a pilot pedestrian flag program. One is already being used nearby in Chevy Chase and, as far as I know, works okay. Knowing Silver Spring, however, the flags will probably be stolen so frequently, the county will go bankrupt trying to replace them.



Hey, maybe the drivers would enjoy this. They could use Georgia Avenue as a high-speed slalom course and weave their way between flag-toting pedestrians.

- Just up The Pike and DCist surmise that the potential arrival in D.C. of the House of Blues may scuttle Birchmere's plans to expand to Silver Spring. Great, just what we need, a place that allows Jim "not John" Belushi and a 500 lb. John Goodman up on stage pretending to be the Blues Brothers rather than a music venue in downtown Silver Spring.



- Silver Chips has a story on the background of the present Blair building and the school's move from Wayne Ave. One thing that didn't come with the students is the crest, which the school is now trying to get back.

- The FDA project in White Oak is "right on track". My hope is that the influx of jobs will lead to increased (and improved) dining options in that area. Right now, there ain't a whole lot. However, if you crave junky "comfort food", Chef Theo's (home of the Greek Jay Leno) always hits the spot. I love how they have an ancient Goldie Hawn photo up on the wall along with a framed picture of Kevin Costner as Robin Hood. Has Kevin Costner dined at Chef Theo's? If so, I'd really like to know how that happened.



54 comments:

Anonymous said...

During very serious and sad moments in "Bobby," at the Majestic, people in back of me were chattering away. It is so rude.

Terry in Silver Spring said...

Did you complain to the AFI management? I go there fairly regularly and haven't had that problem at all.

Anonymous said...

There were pedestrian flags at the crosswalk on East-West Hwy between the NOAA complex and the Giant shopping center just before they put up the traffic light a year or so ago. I never saw anyone use them though. I don't think people knew what they were.

Capt. Jack Sparrow said...

Interesting to hear that rudeness prevails at the AFI as well as at the Majestic.

I went to see "Jackass 2," at the Majestic, and to my aggravation, I had to hear running commentary from a few fellow moviegoers saying, "They tryin' to kill theyselves! They tryin' to kill theyselves!"

Anonymous said...

Babel during Babel? That's precious!

Sligo said...

I hadn't even thought of that...

Anonymous said...

Fix the link to Just Up The Pike!

-Not Dan

Sligo said...

Fixed.

Anonymous said...

I've never had any problem at the AFI.

As much as it makes me uncomfortable to say it, the darker the audience at a movie theater, the louder it is. Go see a movie at the Georgetown Lowe's and Magic Johnson;s in Largo. There is a world of differenece.

The last time I went to the Majestic (and this was over a year ago) I went to go see the movie Signs. The crowd was so rude and loud (including a family a few rows up that brought a baby to a 9:45 showing) that we left in the middle of the movie. I went to the ticket window and asked to speak with a manager. He came and I told him that I was very unhappy and explained why. He said "What should we do about it?? He went on to tell me that they do not have the ability to control their guests. I asked for a refund, he refused.

I wrote a letter to Consolidated Theaters, who owns the Majestic. I recieved a prompt reply and 8 free movie coupons and a $10.00 voucher for concessions. They deeply apologized and said they were bringing in new management.

I guess things haven't changed.

I will not go to a majority black movie theater, which is sad, because I am a black woman.

Sligo said...

Didn't Signs come out like four years ago?

The best behaved theatergoers in the DC area were at the Wisconsin 4000 theatres near Tenleytown. Sadly, however, these theatres are being closed.

Rfustero said...

I stopped going to movie theaters about ten years ago for this very reason- to much talk and people interacting with the movie. I refuse to go to a mall eatery for the same reason- rude behavior and loud talking.

Anonymous said...

And they say left wing democrat extremist aren't racist towards African Americans.

Sligo said...

I've been to movies at the Majestic where people come into the theater in the middle of the movie after their own movie has ended. Since they don't really care about your movie, they talk/yell loudly intentionally in order to disturb everyone.

I also love when people are using the Sprint 2-ways during the movie.

Anonymous said...

why do so many black people use those annoying nextel walkie talkie phones?

they must be cheap.

Sligo said...

OK, let's play nice now...

Debbie Cook said...

Why can't they have a sign that says SHHH - No loud talking during the movie and turn off all cell phones. I seem to remember ushers monitoring the movie. If you got too loud the usher would come by and tell you to lower your voice. If you did it again after a warning, they kicked you out. If your cell phone is on, turn it off or get out. Also why would the theatre allow people with infants into a movie that is supposed to be quiet. That's just asking for lots of noise. Makes no sense. No wonder people wait for movies to come out on DVD.

Sligo said...

It'd be great if they had ushers, but there's a couple of reasons I don't think they have them anymore:

1. Additional employees they don't feel like paying for.

2. Who is going to listen to an usher these days? They'd probably get told off (or worse) if they dared to challenge loud theatergoers.

I was at a movie at the Rio (one and ONLY time) and someone brought a kid who was maybe 1 or 2 into a 10:00 movie. The kid was running around screaming and making noise the entire movie until someone finally yelled "get that kid out of here!!". The parent went ballistic and wanted to kill the person who yelled at their kid. They didn't seem to think that there was anything wrong with their kid disturbing the entire theater. Note that this showing was actually beyond capacity, because so many people had bought tickets to another film and then went into the sold-out movie instead. Legitimate ticket holders were forced to sit on the stairs for the entire movie. Did anyone from the theater give a damn? No. People are selfish as hell these days and the theaters either don't give a damn about everyone else or are too scared to do anything about people disturbing everyone else.

It's their funeral, because as home theaters get better and better, movie theaters are going to die off because people will get sick and tired of dealing with this crap.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
12/08/2006 2:25 AM
And they say left wing democrat extremist aren't racist towards African Americans.


With all due respect, the comments made were NOT racist (a word that is thrown around very lightly these days).

The comment was about the culture of some American blacks who have not learned what is appropriate (considerate) public behavior, i.e. staying quiet in a movie theater, not screaming rampantly in a mall or anywhere else.

When I say quiet, I don't mean "in their place", what I mean is being self-aware that they need to respect that others are watching a movie and want to hear it and not them. This doesn't just apply to blacks but ANYONE who doesn't think about the implications of their own behavior in public.

Capt. Jack Sparrow said...

To the Majestic's credit, once I was in there and witnessed this:

Some young African American men came in late to the movie, shouted to find their friends, and disturbed the whole theatre. Someone hissed, "Shhhhhhhh," and one of the teenagers yelled, "F*ck YOU!!!" really loud.

I tell you, it was less than ten minutes before MoCo police marched right up to the troublemakers and escorted them out of the theatre. It sucks that we moviegoers have to call the police during a movie, but it happens.

Honestly, though, I try to wait for movies to come out on DVD. I just can't deal with the disrespectful clientele at the Majestic.

Sligo said...

On weekends, there are actually uniformed police working in the theater. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

ihateyuppies said...

First of all, I don't appreciate the racist comments even if it is a slam against your own race. Rudeness cuts across racial and ethnic lines.

However, I think the behavior of the movie goers at the Majestic deters me to some extent. It's the teenage kids who have nothing to do on a Friday night.

Also, most of the movies at The Majestic are crappy, over-budget, poorly-acted Hollywood films. Not my cup of tea.

I usually go to the Bethesda Landmark Theater for film watching. They may be yuppies but at least they are well behaved.

Sligo said...

I don't ever remember this type of behavior at the Wheaton theaters when I used to have to go over there for movies. Nor at the City Place theaters when they first opened. This phenomenon seems to have grown a lot in the past 10 years or so, at least around here.

Nate said...

This thread is starting to sound like a convention of crotchety old men. Sure, people talk too much in movies these days, it's true, but it's not just a Silver Spring phenonemon by any means, and even at the Majestic it isn't nearly as ubiquitous as this thread would make it seem. I've been to a number of movies there and have honestly never had any problems with the noise level. On top of that, all the racial stereotyping (and occasional casual racism) in the thread is sort of off-putting.

I've been a member of the AFI Silver since before it opened, and it bothers me that you'd make generalizations about the behavior of its patrons based on ONE experience. Your one bad experience at the AFI doesn't mean that there's some curse on Silver Spring movie theaters, it means you bumped into some particularly rude people at one particular movie, and apparently you chose not to confront them, or ask the management to do so. That doesn't justify their behavior by any means, but it definitely calls into question the legitimacy of your griping.

Sligo said...

I wasn't trying to insinuate that there is a epidemic of rude behavior at the AFI. On the contrary, I was surprised because I don't usually experience it when I go to movies there.

Yes, perhaps this isn't unique to Silver Spring, but the fact is that in my experience, it is generally common at the Majestic relative to some other movie theaters in the DC area (such as Georgetown and the Wisconsin 4000).

And it has nothing to do with being old... when I was 15 I'd still get annoyed if people were making noise in the theater. It's just rude, no matter what age they are. I've seen adults do the same things and they are even worse, because they should know better. They also don't discipline their kids when they are running around and screaming during a movie. No wonder they grow up into obnoxious teenagers.

WashingtonGardener said...

I go to the movies 3-4 times per week all over DC amd MoCo - the Wheaton and Tenley theaters were/are so so shabby they invited disrespectful behavior and were the worst - just like Union Station towards the end.
I recall the opening week at City PLace attending a midnight film and the audience acting up horribly the whole time - though they made the crappy film actually more enjoyable - and in some cases (esp horror films and bad comedies) the audience IS much more entertaining than what is onscreen.
I personally avoid theaters on crowded times - Fri-Sat night - Don't go there at those times if you don't like being jostled and harrassed by teen crowds! Go on other nights or other times.
The latest annoyance to me in theaters (aside from the LONG previews & commercials running far past the movie start time) is the seat kicking. Stadium theaters are very roomy - there is absolutely no need for it - but it happens EVERY-SINGLE TIME and repeatable - I think folks must not be aware they are doing this - so my personal plea - keep your feet down and in your own personal space.

thecourtyard said...

It's funny that the Majestic is so loud because it's "majority-black," which is a fallacy on both counts. I've been to several quiet showings at the Majestic, even on the weekends. It has to do with the movie you're seeing. You shouldn't be surprised that there are teenagers in Jackass 2, nor should you be upset if they're making noise - it's not like there's anything to miss.

As a half-Black male I hope I don't interrupt your movie the next time we are at the Majestic together.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but the comments about black teenagers often being the loud obnoxious ones in the Majestic are not racist.

No one made comments that blacks were inferior or should be denied equal rights or anything else that was racist (in the true definition of the word).

At worst, the posters can be accused of stereotyping, but unfortunately *some* stereotypes exist because there is strong basis in reality.

I personally have experienced the rude, loud movie conversations and poor behavior over and over and over again...and it's typically not the white kids, not the latinos, not the asian kids doing it...but the black kids.

Anonymous said...

I agree - it is not racist. Go to the movies in Bethesda, it's not the white and asian kids beng loud. It's groups of black teenagers.

Trying to deny this is simply not living in reality.

Anonymous said...

Omari be talkin and whatnot when he is at the theaters.

Anonymous said...

Forget about the movies- have you been to a high school graduation in the DC area lately?? Public school, private school - doesnt' matter- guests are asked to hold their applause till the end of the ceremony. So what happens? The Asian families sit quietly while the kids' names are announced, the Hispanic and white families usually (but not always) cooperate, and the black families go balistic- yelling and screaming and prancing up the aisles, as if the instructions don't apply to them. It's revolting.

This is not racist- it's a recitation of how I have seen families behave at three local HS (different HS) graduations.

Anonymous said...

American blacks refuse to follow society norms. I too have attended numerous graduations and have been APPALLED at how rude many black families act.

It is not racist to identify repeated patterns of behavior.

American blacks feel they do not have to follow the rules the rest of us live by. Thats just the hard truth.

Call me a racist, I know some of you will. I don't care. I know that if a group of people consistently refuse to act like adults, I will choose not to associate with them.

I refuse to go to any majority black establishment because I am a civil person and many American blacks do not know/choose not to act like a human being.

Rfustero said...

The comments are not racists, but are a commentary on the way some ethnic groups behave.

But lately, I have seen a whole generation of young people who lack manners- white black, hispanic or asian.

If you go to Wheaton on the weekend the mall is full of rude young people of all colors. They are loud, rude in there comments, and many are pigs- watch them leave their trash behind at the eatery rather than throw it away.

It is an unfortunately comment on the times, that this young generation have lost any sense of good maners or universal concern for others. they all live in their own world of " mine mine and mine and no once else matters."

I fear for the future.

Anonymous said...

Umm..
Things are smacking of a bit of racism here.
Its one thing to point out, anecdotes about groups of people. But I would just say to generalize it to a whole race is illogical and unfounded.

In general it is the younger crowd ( of all races and backgrounds), with nothing better to do and no sense of respect for others that cause all the problems. And more often then not they are this way because their parents are also this way, having no respect or concern for thouse outside their immediate group/family.

Silver Springer said...

There is definitely some racism in the air around here and these generalizations only show how far America has come.

Sligo said...

Hey, I don't care what the color of your skin is, as long as you STFU during the damn movie!

Silver Springer said...

Mr. Fustero -- I am glad you didn't win and now I know why.

ihateyuppies said...

Wow, Silver Springer. Why are so anti-Fustero? Could it be that he supports more affordable housing for middle and service class Montgomery County tax payers? Gee...I am glad someone like that didn't get elected.

Well, I am glad that Mr. Silverman (Who Never Met a Real Estate Developer That He Didn't Like) lost during the Democratic Party primaries. If Silverman got elected every last piece of green space would be bulldozed. Developers would be able to shirk their commitments to affordable housing. Section 8 housing allocations would diminish to nothing.

Anonymous said...

There is one group of constant-talkers during movies that no one has brought up -- old (usually white) people -- yep, go to the AFI, go to Uptown, go to Majestic, or any other theater for a daytime matinee and sit near an older couple - about 50% of the time you'll get a steady stream of remarks or commentary.

Capt. Jack Sparrow said...

Those of us who complain about the rude behavior that sometimes occurs at the Majestic probably feel bullied by the rude patrons. (I’ve been to approx. ten movies there, and there’s been a good deal of disruption in about seven of them.)

I think the reason so many people are posting comments about bad movie theatre behavior on here is because we, like many generations before us, are witnessing some sort of loss of innocence. This is a post-9/11 world. There is more fear in our lives than there has been before. And now many of us are made to feel threatened just by doing something as routine as watching a movie in a theatre in our very own town. When we ask other patrons to be quiet nowadays, we are taking a risk.

It frustrates me that I’m considering buying a home in a town where I wouldn’t invite my mother to watch a movie with me.

How did these disruptive moviegoers learn it’s okay to act like that? I think that's why many of us are posting... we're just trying to figure out, "What's going on?", "How did this happen?", and most importantly, how can we make sure our children don't treat other people this way?!

ihateyuppies said...

Jack Sparrow: "I think the reason so many people are posting comments about bad movie theatre behavior on here is because we, like many generations before us, are witnessing some sort of loss of innocence. This is a post-9/11 world. There is more fear in our lives than there has been before. And now many of us are made to feel threatened just by doing something as routine as watching a movie in a theatre in our very own town. When we ask other patrons to be quiet nowadays, we are taking a risk."

Are you saying that if you tell some kid to pipe down that he will put a cap in your ass with a 9mm Glock? Geez, I wouldn't go that far. Some of these kids act tough and look menacing; it's all for show.

I don't get the reference to the post 9/11 world either. I haven't changed my daily life patterns after 9/11/01. My odds of getting killed in a car crash are a million times greater than Al Qaeda blowing up in pieces. As long as there is poverty, disease, crime, materialism, and greed...there NEVER was innocence in this world.

Stop being afraid and live life as you want it.

Sligo said...

I agree with Jack Sparrow regarding the worry about some kid's reaction to being told to be quiet. If there are two of them no, but if there's a big group, they tend to be a lot more bold about challenging you during/after the movie.

Anonymous said...

Not naming names, but why is it that the same people who congratulate themselves on only watching Independent and Foreign fare are the same ones so quick to defend and embrace the uncivilized and obnoxious among us (who "only act the way they do because we are not Sweden and we dont have universal healthcare/daycare/etc." right?)

Anonymous said...

Ihateyuppies,

I'd like to see just how much you like Section 8 if you were a multi-family landlord who had to continually pay for the excessive damage (of real property and resident lost rent) from good tenants moving away b/c or sec 8 tenants.

Of course, you probably would never be a multi-family landlord because that would mean you were trying to make money as a capitalist by having others pay rent to pay for your real estate investment.

Generally (not all, but nearly all) sec 8 tenants have very little respect for their apartments because they are subsidized. That is why landlords HATE being forced to have them...not because of their social class or income, but because they trash their homes and alienate respectful neighbors.

Silver Springer said...

ihateyuppies said...

"Wow, Silver Springer. Why are so anti-Fustero? Could it be that he supports more affordable housing for middle and service class Montgomery County tax payers? Gee...I am glad someone like that didn't get elected.

Well, I am glad that Mr. Silverman (Who Never Met a Real Estate Developer That He Didn't Like) lost during the Democratic Party primaries. If Silverman got elected every last piece of green space would be bulldozed. Developers would be able to shirk their commitments to affordable housing. Section 8 housing allocations would diminish to nothing."

Who wants section 8 housing? Also where are these middle class people suppose to work or should we become a bedroom community?

ihateyuppies said...

Anonymous: "Not naming names, but why is it that the same people who congratulate themselves on only watching Independent and Foreign fare are the same ones so quick to defend and embrace the uncivilized and obnoxious among us (who "only act the way they do because we are not Sweden and we dont have universal healthcare/daycare/etc." right?)"

Because foreign film lefty liberals like me prefer to judge people by their character, not by the color of their skin. You have jackasses in movie theaters all the time. Those jackasses cross racial and generational lines.

Michelle said...

American blacks refuse to follow society norms

No. They refuse to follow your norms. They are following theirs.

I'm not saying I don't find it annoying as hell myself, because I do. I'm just saying no one took a vote and elected you (or me, or Quiet White People in general) the boss. Video Americain in Takoma Park would be happy to rent you a DVD of whatever it is you would like to watch in absolute silence.

A blogger named Anil Dash may have said it best:

America, wake up... not everyone acts the way you do, and not everyone has the same expectations, wants, and desires that you do. If it's an orchestral performance, then shut the fuck up. If it's a funk concert, then get off your ass and jam. Somewhere in between? Then figure it out. But don't expect that everyone around you will arrive at the same conclusion.

Anonymous said...

Yes, well I'd put a movie in the "orchestral performance" category so people in the theater should "shut the fuck up". If you talk, you are probably disturbing someone, white, black, hispanic or otherwise who has paid upwards of $10 to see the movie. I consider it a pretty established "norm" that you don't talk in a movie, yet somehow people don't give a crap about anyone else and do just that. If someone at the library starts talking loudly, you can bet the librarian will tell them to be quiet. Not so at the movie theater (at least at Majestic), where the ushers could care less.

I have a pretty good home theater, and when the day comes where new releases come out for home viewing the same day as the theaters, you can bet that I won't bother to go out simply because I don't want to deal with this crap. If the theaters were smart, they'd have some enforcement, because it is going to hurt the long-term heath of the industry.

thecourtyard said...

Here are my two cents on noisy movie patrons:

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
12/08/2006 2:25 AM
And they say left wing democrat extremist aren't racist towards African Americans.


With all due respect, the comments made were NOT racist (a word that is thrown around very lightly these days).

The comment was about the culture of some American blacks who have not learned what is appropriate (considerate) public behavior, i.e. staying quiet in a movie theater, not screaming rampantly in a mall or anywhere else.

When I say quiet, I don't mean "in their place", what I mean is being self-aware that they need to respect that others are watching a movie and want to hear it and not them. This doesn't just apply to blacks but ANYONE who doesn't think about the implications of their own behavior in public.

12/08/2006 11:19 AM

RE: And they say left wing democrat extremist aren't racist towards African Americans.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm sorry, but the comments about black teenagers often being the loud obnoxious ones in the Majestic are not racist.

No one made comments that blacks were inferior or should be denied equal rights or anything else that was racist (in the true definition of the word).

At worst, the posters can be accused of stereotyping, but unfortunately *some* stereotypes exist because there is strong basis in reality.

I personally have experienced the rude, loud movie conversations and poor behavior over and over and over again...and it's typically not the white kids, not the latinos, not the asian kids doing it...but the black kids.

12/09/2006 1:37 PM

RE: I'll remember that comment the next time one of you tree hugging Maryland hating southern hillbilly Democrats make false claims that Left Wing Extremist Democrats have their best interest in improving the quality of life for Blacks.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
American blacks refuse to follow society norms. I too have attended numerous graduations and have been APPALLED at how rude many black families act.

It is not racist to identify repeated patterns of behavior.

American blacks feel they do not have to follow the rules the rest of us live by. Thats just the hard truth.

Call me a racist, I know some of you will. I don't care. I know that if a group of people consistently refuse to act like adults, I will choose not to associate with them.

I refuse to go to any majority black establishment because I am a civil person and many American blacks do not know/choose not to act like a human being.

12/10/2006 9:58 PM

RE: And you Maryland hating Virginia loving country hick democrats want to continue to screw economic/business/revenue growth in Maryland because you know it will hurt Blacks the most and it will favor more economic/busness/revenue growth in Northern Virginia for you stuck up bougie confederate flag supporting communist.

Anonymous said...

Silver Springer said...
Mr. Fustero -- I am glad you didn't win and now I know why.

12/11/2006 9:59 AM

RE: Hey, he did not single out one race he said all races. And yes there is truth to the fact that most Democrats in Maryland are just as racist against Black Americans than the Republicans.

Anonymous said...

maybe they could have two theaters: one that is more "urban" and one that is more "civilizied"

the "urban" one would allow "whooping it up"

the "civilizied" one would remain "pin drop" silent

i think this is the "best solution"

i think that "they" should work together to get along and stop all the "hating"

as a proud multiracial graduate of sherwood high school, i say "INCREASE THE PEACE" because we need to learn to "get along"

one more "thing" i want to bring up.

i say go "terps" because they are "the best"

a girl on the bus told me that the "silver spring" is getting an old town buffet. is this "correct"

i love me some buffets. you get your "money" worth.

okay kiddies, its time for "bed."

Sligo said...

Just so we can move on, I'm going to lock the comments for this thread...